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LOCKLAND - A Lockland resident has filed a lawsuit against the village, claiming a display of the Ten Commandments outside town hall is unconstitutional.
Christopher Knecht wants the sign removed and a court order to prevent any future displays of "religious fables and myths."
From what I read most of the founders were Deists, hardly believers in what functions as modern day 'Christian' belief.
The vast majority of those at the Constitutional Convention were professed Christians, and some whose names we do not remember would indeed have been quasi-fundies bent on creating a Nation of Jesus. Fortunately, these were shouted and voted down by those whose names we DO remember, many of whom were indeed deists. They understood, as today's religious whackjobs do not, that religion must be and remain an exclusively individual matter if it is to be a friend rather than a foe to society at large.
it said:
1. thou shall not kill
2. thou shall not steal
3. thou shall not lie
4. thou shall not rape
5. honor/ respect your elders
6. at least one day a week should be for rest
7. take care of the children
8. dont do drugs
9. thou shall not curse
10. thou shall be free
what then, owuld people have a problem because there are COMMANDments, or is it just because some people want to belive that there is no god or afterlife.............btw if there is no afterlife, what will keep people from breaking the law? because our jails are a heck of a lot nicer than our homeless shelters
it said:
1. thou shall not kill
2. thou shall not steal
3. thou shall not lie
4. thou shall not rape
5. honor/ respect your elders
6. at least one day a week should be for rest
7. take care of the children
8. dont do drugs
9. thou shall not curse
10. thou shall be free
what then, owuld people have a problem because there are COMMANDments, or is it just because some people want to belive that there is no god or afterlife.............btw if there is no afterlife, what will keep people from breaking the law? because our jails are a heck of a lot nicer than our homeless shelters
I would have no problem with that. Actually you'd have to post the applicable section of the judicial code after each commandment as most of these laws are already on the books.
The last words of the Pledge are the words "With Liberty and Justice For All."
The first Commandment states, "I Am The Lord Thy God, Thou Shalt Have No Other Gods Before Me."
So right off the bat the ten commandments is exclusionary. How can there be liberty and justice for all if carved in stone is the command to worship the Christian God or else?
I hear you on the exclusionary part. But, just for the record, I feel it's necessary to point out that the Ten Commandments predate Christianity by a few centuries. They were not inscribed in stone as the demands of a Christian God.
it said:
1. thou shall not kill
2. thou shall not steal
3. thou shall not lie
4. thou shall not rape
5. honor/ respect your elders
6. at least one day a week should be for rest
7. take care of the children
8. dont do drugs
9. thou shall not curse
10. thou shall be free
what then, owuld people have a problem because there are COMMANDments, or is it just because some people want to belive that there is no god or afterlife.............btw if there is no afterlife, what will keep people from breaking the law? because our jails are a heck of a lot nicer than our homeless shelters
So now the state is going to arrest me for lying?
If not then what is the purpose of a Non God 10 commandments?
All the liberal posts here just stink of ignorance and shallow mindedness. I see that if THEY don't like something, they want it removed, BUT if they APPROVE of something, they want it preserved for ever. How is this tolerance that you all praise yourselves on?
Or cursing? None of your or the state's business.
Many elders do not deserve my respect.
Good to see you got the pharmaceutical companies in there, though. Or do you approve of "legal" drugs like alcohol, oxycotin, etc.
Take care of your own children if you choose to breed.
Without religion, the world would have evolved into a savage place of murder, stealing and raping. Religion is what brought about humanity and laws that say things like "THOU SHALL NOT KILL".
My good man, religion is a social luxury. It implies a priveleged class to be supported by the labors of others that can only be managed within a society that has together figured out how to earn an economic surplus from their collective endeavors. A society that does not first learn to keep from murder, rape, and theft will never reach such a point of cooperative success. Religions mirror the societies that they find themslves in as a part of doing business. The job of religion is to reinforce the secular culture and provide it with a supernatural blessing as if that were some independent testimony to its worthiness. If this were not the case, Christianity would not have morphed from being an anti-wealth religion of street people and the lower classes into one that embraces the most fantastic wealth and wanton consumerism as signs of God's affection and approval. Rich men enter Heaven today as if camels were able to run piggyback through the Eye of the Needle. How times have changed.
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Originally Posted by obo
Also, you should argue your stance with Nietzsche, since his outlook is that America was indeed founded on the philosophies of Judeo-Christianity.
His outlook was that the principles of America were essentially a waste of time, but then again, he was quite out of circulation by 1890 and hardly had any chance to see us in our full flower. The fact remains that this country was not founded on any principles from any religion at all, and that it was deliberately structured to be as areligious and unentangled in matters of religion as possible.
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