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The people who tend not to like Socialism are those people who have to work hard to pay for it. The money of course has to be confiscated from those who earn it.
The people who tend to love Socialism are those people who benefit by it, those who don't work but can trust their government will rob the working people to give them a very comfortable lifestyle.
So say someone in your family did overeat or they did work out, would you want them to die or lose their house because they couldn't afford health care?
Of course not, but I would not expect anyone else to pay for it. I would attempt to work it out with the doctor, or settle for a care of a lesser sort. Having me pay for someone elses care, puts me in the job of a sugardaddy, without the benefit of attempting to keep them healthy.
My kids are overweight. They know the risks they have because of this fact. They also know that there may be a time when they will need medical attention because of this fact. Even though we eat plenty of fruits and veggies,,they lack the exercise needed to burn calories off. Do I push them? No, as they are young adults and need to know what life is about. They work, so theyy provide for themselves, as I did, even at a young age(teenagers). But if they want fast food, or junk food, they buy it, not me.
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Also when you were growing up, did you have a lot of opportunities to eat fast food?
No, as that was a luxury then. Now it is a way of life for people.
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How big were the portions?
Seemingly bigger than today. i remember the Bog Mac being twice the size it is today, but maybe it was because I was smaller. Who knows.
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Was the government subsidizing unhealthy food?
Don't know.
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How much were fruits and vegetables compared to today?
Free, as we lived on a farm when I was younger. When we moved, we always had a garden, and canned our excesses, every year.
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Did your parents have to work 2 jobs to support you, which might have decreased the amount of time they had to exercise...?
Only one parent(dad) worked until the economy got so bad in the 70's that 2 were required to work. Notice this is when major events happened in the world stage. Gold was removed as the backing of the dollar in international trade. Oil was in crisis. Inflation shot through the roof. Yea, the good ol days. Feel like I am being brought back into that time, only a hell of a lot further in debt. 11 trillion and counting, and that is not counting the unfunded committed liabilities.
The people who tend not to like Socialism are those people who have to work hard to pay for it. The money of course has to be confiscated from those who earn it.
The people who tend to love Socialism are those people who benefit by it, those who don't work but can trust their government will rob the working people to give them a very comfortable lifestyle.
yeah.. okay.. whatever..LOL> i don't benefit and pay for it just like the rest of you.
It's more like the people who like some socialistic principles are those of us wise enough to realize that it benefits not only those that seem to "benefit" directly, but the whole of society. Those with the intelligence to realize how well some of those programs work.. and that it is why our country is they way it is.
Those who don't like socialistic policies are those that are too narrow minded to realize how it is at work around them.. and who seem focused on only one thing.. personal gain and GREED.
This is absolutely NOT right. They should have to use coupons,,or they should only buy generic(or store brands),,,and they should not be allowed to pay for meat that is over a set price per pound, like those oof us who watch what we spend. But hey, it isn't THEIR money,,,it is ours. So, they could care less, as we "owe" it to them,,,but I wonder,,,why?
I don't think they should have food stamps at all. They should have food pantries and a kind of welfare program that gives the poor rice, bread, beans, government cheese and few few other food basics. The problem is, the welfare types aren't usually very educated about nutrition, they tend to be like little kids going through a store picking out ice cream, cookies, candy, and chips.
Now we have a problem with the welfare types being too obese because they load up on junk food and the health care costs will be enormous. They need a lot more guidance.
yeah.. okay.. whatever..LOL> i don't benefit and pay for it just like the rest of you.
It's more like the people who like some socialistic principles are those of us wise enough to realize that it benefits not only those that seem to "benefit" directly, but the whole of society. Those with the intelligence to realize how well some of those programs work.. and that it is why our country is they way it is.
Those who don't like socialistic policies are those that are too narrow minded to realize how it is at work around them.. and who seem focused on only one thing.. personal gain and GREED.
There is nothing wrong with personal gain when you want to keep what you worked hard for. It's the personal gain that makes you want what others worked for that is bad. The welfare class is greedy, they are just greedy for the money others made, they want it -- they want it all, but they don't want to work for it, make any effort of themselves.
I don't think they should have food stamps at all. They should have food pantries and a kind of welfare program that gives the poor rice, bread, beans, government cheese and few few other food basics. The problem is, the welfare types aren't usually very educated about nutrition, they tend to be like little kids going through a store picking out ice cream, cookies, candy, and chips.
Now we have a problem with the welfare types being too obese because they load up on junk food and the health care costs will be enormous. They need a lot more guidance.
You are absolutely right.. but they also eat poor because the UNHEALTHY foods are also the LEAST EXPENSIVE.....
Healthier foods, healthier choices are a "luxury" that some poor can't afford..because they do have little that they need to make strethc.
Yes, it also has to do with a lack of nutritional knowledge.. but even when armed with that knowledge the healthier choices are hard to make becasue of the costs involved.
Also... being on welfare does not mean that they are not working. ON the contrary many people on welfare ARE working.. menial jobs that do not pay a living wage..and sometimes they are working three or four jobs between two parents.. or if they are one parent they are working two jobs to support their kids... THat also leads them to make choices in their groceries that are more processed foods that are simpler and less time consuming to throw together after a long days work or inbetween their two jobs.
The vision of welfare collecting people sitting on a couch collecting a check and being lazy are completely wrong.. and NOT the typical picture of a welfare family/mother/ children.
It's more like the people who like some socialistic principles are those of us wise enough to realize that it benefits not only those that seem to "benefit" directly, but the whole of society. Those with the intelligence to realize how well some of those programs work.. and that it is why our country is they way it is.
Those who don't like socialistic policies are those that are too narrow minded to realize how it is at work around them.. and who seem focused on only one thing.. personal gain and GREED.
This is how I give my own kids some intelligence. One asks me for money so I give him a chore to do. He works hard, finishes the chore but if it's Socialist day at our house, then I take the money away and remind him we must be "fair", that the ones that laid around watching television want their fair share of the money he worked for so I the government must divide his money and distribute it fairly because those who didn't feel like helping with the chore must be given the same rewards as the one who did.
On the non-Socialist days the kid who worked at the chore gets to keep the money from it. The others lose out.
It's very difficult to get any of them to do anything on Socialist day. They ALL want to lay around and watch television or play video games.
yeah.. okay.. whatever..LOL> i don't benefit and pay for it just like the rest of you.
It's more like the people who like some socialistic principles are those of us wise enough to realize that it benefits not only those that seem to "benefit" directly, but the whole of society. Those with the intelligence to realize how well some of those programs work.. and that it is why our country is they way it is.
Those who don't like socialistic policies are those that are too narrow minded to realize how it is at work around them.. and who seem focused on only one thing.. personal gain and GREED.
Since when is personal gain a bad thing? Are we not endowed with life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness? Are these not pursuits which make for free men? Can we not use our abilities to make for a better life for ourselves and our families? Is this greedy because I will not "share" with those who do not desire this, but would rather take from me? Do you know how rediculous this sounds?
I am not against you paying for someone elses hardships, but do not tell me how best to serve my community. And most of all, do not tell me I have to. Charity is charity. Most decent people I know do not have to be told to give their time, talents, and treasures to charity. But this is not the governments job,,AT ALL. Their job is to protect my life, my liberty, and my property. That is it, and that is the basis for ALL Law.
There is not one single founder of this country who would have supported our current government. Not one. This should tell you something, and please do not tell me,,,it is the times. The times haven't changed concerning plunder,,both legal and illegal.
You are absolutely right.. but they also eat poor because the UNHEALTHY foods are also the LEAST EXPENSIVE.....
That's is pure bleeding heart myth. Actually a 10 pound bag of raw potatoes is much cheaper and far healthier than a bag of potato chips. Soft drinks are not at all cheap and are pure garbage as far as nutrition. Cookies are not cheaper than a bag of carrots.
The welfare crowd eats junk food because they aren't educated about nutrition and its easier to feed kids candy bars than prepare a home-cooked meal.
I look at labor unions as a microcosm of socialism.
I look at shopping malls as a microcosm of socialism.
They are all centralized, efficiently laid out, and even climate controlled.
Everything is so neat, tidy and orderly.
Malls attract a lot of people.
Everyone who works there is paid subsistence wages.
Malls are UTOPIA.
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