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Again, I think that their constant obsession with declaring thier sexuality in public is a reflect of a mental health problem. When you bring your sexual orientation into a public arena, do not be shocked when the public reacts. If you do not want a negative public reaction, or cannot deal with that result, do not make it a public issue.
This could be said about any trait that distinguishes us from others. If women want to be be paid equally in the workplace, they shouldn't complain when they're not. If blacks in the 1960s wanted equal rights, they should have just behaved and stayed quiet. Etc.
Okay I just watched it and it almost brought a little tear to my eye because he was so forthright about the violence and horror he saw in war which makes you realize that gay people are harmless and deserving of kind and fair treatment. That's what Chris Kringle is getting at here. Does anybody get that?
I do have a problem with what appears to be the continued obsession of gays to discuss their sexuality in public. They define themselves, as the most important issue apparently in thier lives, by their sexuality and want the rest of the world to be very aware of it and accept it, whether they want to or not.
Here you are completely off base. All they want to do is get married, buy a house with a white picket fence, and get a puppy. Everyone against gay marriage apparently has a problem with their sexuality, discusses it endlessly in the crudest possible way, and thinks only of the sex act. I have never heard of anyone pro gay marriage discuss their intended sex acts after they are married, not one. They want a relationship and a life together, that's all.
Here you are completely off base. All they want to do is get married, buy a house with a white picket fence, and get a puppy. Everyone against gay marriage apparently has a problem with their sexuality, discusses it endlessly in the crudest possible way, and thinks only of the sex act. I have never heard of anyone pro gay marriage discuss their intended sex acts after they are married, not one. They want a relationship and a life together, that's all.
I don't care if they want go buy a house, get a puppy or whatever. I DO have a problem with involving the public in an apparent endorsement of an aberrant activity. The slippery slope argument is true, as next will be man/boy, man/animal/, man/inanimate object, ect...........
If they really just want a life together- do so. Many couples live together and are not married, even those with children. This is just a huge liberal political ruse and has nothing to do with relationships.
I have known two gay couples who had kids and were, in my opinon, excellent parents. Neither were married in a state where gay marriage is legal. They had a family and a life together without involving the public endorsement of a marriage lisence. Why do others need this? I personally do not care if I have a marriage lisence or not and really do not know if my marriage would hold up in US courts. I don't care.
I thought you were being fairly reasonable until....
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I DO have a problem with involving the public in an apparent endorsement of an aberrant activity.
Back to the sex act
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The slippery slope argument is true, as next will be man/boy, man/animal/, man/inanimate object, ect...
We are talking about a relationship between two consenting adults here. You know the addition of the other ridiculous scenarios is a scare tactic to get ignorant, uniformed voters aboard the anti gay marriage train. I have a hard time accepting intelligent people really believe that nonsense.
As for why gay couples want to get married, the answers are as diverse as the reasons straight couples want to get married. Certainly the legalities surrounding having children is a LOT more complicated if not legally married. A friend of mine recently died, she and her partner were together for 36 years, and they have a son whom they both legally adopted. It is a lot more complicated than if they were married, and even same-sex partner benefits apply when the one partner is alive, but benefits are not the same if one dies, medical, pension, etc. That's just one example, but I'm just trying to make the point.
I thought you were being fairly reasonable until....
Back to the sex act
We are talking about a relationship between two consenting adults here. You know the addition of the other ridiculous scenarios is a scare tactic to get ignorant, uniformed voters aboard the anti gay marriage train. I have a hard time accepting intelligent people really believe that nonsense.
As for why gay couples want to get married, the answers are as diverse as the reasons straight couples want to get married. Certainly the legalities surrounding having children is a LOT more complicated if not legally married. A friend of mine recently died, she and her partner were together for 36 years, and they have a son whom they both legally adopted. It is a lot more complicated than if they were married, and even same-sex partner benefits apply when the one partner is alive, but benefits are not the same if one dies, medical, pension, etc. That's just one example, but I'm just trying to make the point.
Let's do some education here, as it appears it is needed.
The reason you think the way you do today is largely the result of a socialist/communist group in Germany (The Frankfurt Group), which was established with Soviet help to make the west more adaptable to communism. The goals of the Franfurt Group, recognizing the impediments of the church, the family, and the middle class, was to destabilize these elements and thus make the west more fertile ground for commnism/socialism. The tools used were pop culture, gay rights, drugs, and elimintation of an economic environment that promotes the middle class. The only good thing Hitler did was try to kill all of them. Unfortunately, they fled Frankfurt and established base at NYU and became the basis for modern liberal thought in America. Isn't it ironic that all the liberal "values" are the very same weapons that the Soviets and Frankfurt Group used to destroy the west?
For once- open your mind, Neo. You are a puppet and have not realized it. Your probably will not read it, as most libs do not want to know the truth. THINK! Do not regurgitate the same tired lines fed to you.
Maybe people mellow with age, but I tend to find a lot of people over 65 are a lot more "live and let live" than many younger people.
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If I believed in God, I would ask him to bless old folks like him.
I certainly saw this happen with my own parents. Not sure how they'd feel about gay rights, but somehow, I think if they were alive today, they'd say "Why not?", even though they belonged to a very RW church. Their church did say "Love the sinner, hate the sin", so it wasn't as bad as many.
AND???? Does his view somehow negate the other soldiers who DON'T feel the same way?
He's not the only man that stormed Normandy.
No, he is not and his opinion does not negate other soldiers' opinions who may feel differently.
I believe the point of the video was not to suggest this man (whose opinion I happen to agree with strongly) speaks for anyone but himself, but more to counter a viewpoint that anyone in his generation, any soldier, etc. is automatically anti-gay.
I, too, found his words inspirational. If you agree, that's fine; if you don't that's also fine. Why are we making this out to be more than it is??
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