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Old 10-21-2009, 11:51 AM
 
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VIENNA - Iranian negotiators on Wednesday expressed support for a deal that — if accepted by their leaders — would delay Tehran's ability to make nuclear weapons by sending most of its existing enriched uranium to Russia for processing, diplomats said.

International Atomic Energy Agency chief Mohamed ElBaradei said that representatives of Iran and its three interlocutors — the U.S., Russia and France — had accepted the draft for forwarding to their capitals. ElBaradei said he hoped for approval from all four countries by Friday.

Ali Asghar Soltanieh, Iran's chief delegate, praised the draft, saying it was "on the right track," while emphasizing that senior Iranian officials in Tehran still had to sign off on it.

Iran, world powers reach draft nuke deal - Iran- msnbc.com
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Old 10-21-2009, 12:03 PM
 
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Peace in our time.
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Old 10-21-2009, 12:04 PM
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Russia is in this with Iran, I don't see how letting the Russians do anything is a good thing.
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Old 10-21-2009, 12:08 PM
 
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Peace in our time.
Yep, the Mullahs will sign anything to fool the chumps in the west, and continue building secret enrichment bunkers and buying weapons sytems from Russia. But at least Barack Chamberlain will have his piece of paper to waive around at his Nobel prize acceptance speech.
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Old 10-21-2009, 12:14 PM
 
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VIENNA - Iranian negotiators on Wednesday expressed support for a deal that — if accepted by their leaders — would delay Tehran's ability to make nuclear weapons by sending most of its existing enriched uranium to Russia for processing, diplomats said.

SOUNDS FAMILIAR?????

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Article: Russian offer won't stop Iranian nuclear arms: But Gore sees breakthrough on Moscow plutonium.(World)
Article from:The Washington Times (Washington, DC) Article date:September 23, 1997

Russia has offered to create a joint U.S.-Russian control system for the Bushehr nuclear reactor in Iran, but U.S. experts said yesterday the offer would do nothing to prevent Tehran from developing its own nuclear weapons.

The offer was made Sunday by Russian Atomic Energy Minister Viktor Mikhailov to his U.S. counterpart, Energy Secretary Federico Pena, who was visiting Moscow with Vice President Al Gore.

Mr. Gore met with Russian Prime Minister Viktor Chernomyrdin in Moscow yesterday in the ninth round of high-powered talks of their joint Gore-Chernomyrdin Commission (GCC), held every six months, and told reporters afterwards their ...

Russian offer won't stop Iranian nuclear arms: But Gore sees breakthrough on Moscow plutonium.(World) | Article from The Washington Times | HighBeam Research

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Russia sells anti-missile systems to Iran (per agreement with Al Gore)
AFP via Babelfish translation | December 2, 2005

Russia sells anti-missile systems in Iran
MOSCOW - Iran signed a contract with Russia on the sale of 29 Russian systems anti-missile Tor M-1, affirmed Friday the financial daily newspaper Russian Vedomosti, quoting sources in Russian military industry.

"Iran will defend itself against the United States and Israel with the Russian systems Tor M-1", titrated Vedomosti with the one.

According to the sources of the daily newspaper, expressing itself under cover of anonymity, 29 systems' anti-missile Tor M-1 able to intercept cruise missiles and airborne bombs were manufactured by the military factory Koupol with Ijevsk (the Volga) for Greece which had already bought 21 systems of this type.

But the end of the Nineties Greece had given up the new contract which would then have cost him 526 million dollars.

"We recently signed a contract with a foreign State on the sale of anti-missile systems Tor M-1", declared with AFP the spokesman of the factory Koupol, Maria Oudalova, joined by telephone to Ijevsk.

The spokesman refused to specify of which country it acted and which was the number of systems sold Tor M-1, explaining that it acted of a "strategic secrecy" of Russia.

The service of press of the official agency Rossoboronexport in charge of Russian exports of weapons, joined by AFP, affirmed that it "did not have information" in connection with this contract.

The contract "will not violate any international engagement of Russia", because Moscow had left in 2000 a secret agreement with Washington known under the name of Gore-Tchernomyrdine protocol which limited the Russian deliveries of weapons to Iran, underlines Vedomosti.

The Tor systems are "a weapon of defense" and "represent a danger to the United States only if this country attacks Iran", raises a Russian expert of the magazine Exportations of weapons, Mikhaïl Barabanov, quoted by the newspaper.

Iran in particular seeks "to defend its nuclear thermal power station" that Moscow is building in Bouchehr, bus "Israel had affirmed that it examined the possibility of launching strike preventive against this site", explains a professor of the Russian Institute of the International relations, Sergueï Droujilovski, quoted by Vedomosti.

Washington shows Teheran to seek to obtain the nuclear weapon under cover of civil activities.

The purchase of the systems Tor M-1 could cost Iran more than 700 million dollars, according to another expert, Dmitri Vassiliev of the Center of analysis of the strategies and technologies.

As reported by the Wall Street Journal, in the intervening years Russia has shipped Iran three new Kilo-class submarines—the most advanced in the world today—as well as wake-homing torpedoes designed to sink U.S. aircraft carriers. They’ve also shipped MiG-29 fighter jets, SU-24 fighter bombers, strategic bombers, jet trainers and anti-ballistic missile systems—all without creating so much as a warning blip on U.S. radar screens, thanks to that 1995 deal. “The Gore-Chernomyrdin pact was a coup of major proportions for Moscow” (op. cit., Oct. 18, 2000).

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HMMMM
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Old 10-21-2009, 12:15 PM
 
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Am I the only one that sees this as more fine-crafted Iranian Smoke and Mirrors?

1) Iran has pushed out IAEA inspectors.

2) We do not know how much enriched uranium Iran possesses, making it impossible to know for sure that the amount they send to Russia for processing is sufficient to debilitate its nuclear weapon capability.

3) Iran is under pressure to do something, anything. The lesser of two evils is to partner with its criminal counterpart (Russia), so they do.

I simply don't see this as a positive development. What am I missing?
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Old 10-21-2009, 12:20 PM
 
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Am I the only one that sees this as more fine-crafted Iranian Smoke and Mirrors?

1) Iran has pushed out IAEA inspectors.
That's weird. I wonder who those guys that went with Mohamed ElBaradei to the Qom nuclear facility on Oct 25, 2009 were?

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2) We do not know how much enriched uranium Iran possesses, making it impossible to know for sure that the amount they send to Russia for processing is sufficient to debilitate its nuclear weapon capability.
Then its a good thing that you aren't an inspector.
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Old 10-21-2009, 12:20 PM
 
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in one week headlines will be Irannians violate agreement.
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Old 10-21-2009, 12:21 PM
 
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in one week headlines will be Irannians violate agreement.
I hope, I hope, I hope... damn no shock and awe!
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Old 10-21-2009, 12:27 PM
 
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That's weird. I wonder who those guys that went with Mohamed ElBaradei to the Qom nuclear facility on Oct 25, 2009 were?



Then its a good thing that you aren't an inspector.
Come on, Ovcatto. Iran opened the Qom facility to inspection due to extreme pressure from the world because it had been caught with its pants down on this SECRET facility.

Secret, as in nefarious. If it were innocent, Iran would have announced its presence long ago. Opening Qom to inspectors was a "must" if Iran's credibility (whatever that is) was to be salvaged. Therefore, in good faith, they opened it up to inspectors, and in return, Iran has been allowed to partner with criminal Russia, whose on economic interests are at stake as well. Some penalty, huh?
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