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Old 10-21-2009, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Another example of stories taken blindly out of context. The bill is the annual extension of a provision to ignore the cuts to doctors' payments mandated under a 1997 deficit reduction act that continues to operate. The defeat of the bill means that doctors payments will have to be cut, but the House health care bill includes an offset to those cuts and the vote in the Senate heads off any chance of an amendment to the Senate health care bill being offered from the floor in an attempt to push the bill's cost over the President's stated limit.

Mmmm we are talking cost containment in healthcare, every provider is taking a hit yet they wanted to keep the doctors whole. Now why would they want to do that? LOL.
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Old 10-21-2009, 07:19 PM
 
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Funny - the democrats are NOW considering what many in the GOP and elsewhere said before the stimulus was passed. TAX CUTS to business and individuals - this is what they are proposing NOW, after their "idea" has failed.
Again...$288 billion in tax cuts in ARRA...to individuals, small businesses, and larger corporations. How quickly you ignore...
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Old 10-21-2009, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Here ya go..Biden admits that "EVERYONE guessed wrong" so that lets them off the hook for the out of whack unemployment estimations. I mean..it was "everyone" so how was the WH to know better ?

Vice President Joe Biden says 'everyone guessed wrong' on jobs number | National News - cleveland.com - - cleveland.com
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Old 10-21-2009, 07:22 PM
 
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He made promises if the people put their trust in the stimulus, in spending a trillion we don't have. Those promises have not come to fruition, not even close.
What promises were those? The ones I keep hearing about were made by WorldNetDaily, not Obama.

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He should be held responsible for his hair-brained, failed policies.
And right-wingers should be held responsible for the hair-brained stories they tell.
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Old 10-21-2009, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Again...$288 billion in tax cuts in ARRA...to individuals, small businesses, and larger corporations. How quickly you ignore...
At an average of $13/biweekly paycheck - inconsequential and irrelevant. And it wasn't a tax cut, it was a rate reduction, something I hardly even noticed in the paycheck.
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Old 10-21-2009, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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What promises were those? The ones I keep hearing about were made by WorldNetDaily, not Obama.

And right-wingers should be held responsible for the hair-brained stories they tell.
Saggy, you really demean yourself by spinning this. We all remember his event after event, telling us what the stimulus would do - keep UE below 8% (his very own chart, which you always like to dismiss), he claimed the stimulus would create 600,000 jobs by summer's end, 3-4 million by 2010, would provide a jolt in the arm to small business - none of that has happened.

And you know it.

Stop playing dumb on this issue.
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Old 10-21-2009, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Edwardsville, IL
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At an average of $13/biweekly paycheck - inconsequential and irrelevant. And it wasn't a tax cut, it was a rate reduction, something I hardly even noticed in the paycheck.
I second that. "Oooh, hey kids - Daddy's check is larger- let's splurge and purchase ground beef this month!!!"
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Old 10-21-2009, 07:29 PM
 
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At an average of $13/biweekly paycheck - inconsequential and irrelevant.
How many paychecks are those $13 in? How many times to biweekly paychecks get sent out? Do you know why the tax cut was disbursed this way? I'll tell you...because when Bushie sent out those lump-sum stimulus checks, bozos used them to add to savings or pay down down debt. Both of those actions serve to undercut the stimulus effects of the stimulus checks. Brilliant!!! So, we had to break the payments up into little tiny pieces so that you wouldn't have much choice but just to spend them as they came, which of course is the whole point. I actually do know 34th-graders who understand this crap and right-wingers don't...what's to be done with these people...

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Old 10-21-2009, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Edwardsville, IL
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[quote=saganista;11291684]What promises were those? The ones I keep hearing about were made by WorldNetDaily, not Obama.


And right-wingers should be held responsible for the hair-brained stories they tell.[/quote]

And left-wingers should be held responsible for the collection of morons that they elected that are leading to the destruction of the American quality of life.
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Old 10-21-2009, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I second that. "Oooh, hey kids - Daddy's check is larger- let's splurge and purchase ground beef this month!!!"
At $4.99/lb you won't get too much.
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