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Wow what a "balanced " bunch, right, righter and rightest
Geraldine Ferraro? Alan Colmes? Geraldo Rivera???
If those people are politically "right" in your world, you must move in circles (literally) - nobody could be that off balance and walk a straight line.
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The courts hhave ruled it's NOT NEWS, it's entertainment like Wrestling
Holy cow.... you're clueless... Do you have any idea who Juan Williams, Bob Beckle and Alan Colmes are? Obviously not... Thanks for showing the true ignorance of the opposition to Fox News.
He obviously does not know what he is talking about if he really thinks those three guys listed above are "right-wingers!"
Anyone who had actually followed the story would know that the documents were sent for analysis and verification before any story went on the air. Such people would also know that nothing contained in those documents was ever disputed. The documents were dismissed only because a credible link between those copies and original copies could not be establoshed. The woman who would have typed the original copies testified that everything in Rather's copies was accurate. She was only certain that she herself had not typed them.
What Dan Rather reported was later found to be inaccurate.
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Given the dismal level of service that George W. Bush has provided in every other professional undertaking, it is hardly any stretch to suggest that his ANG servoce was also dismal.
Those who serve in the National Guard would strongly disagree about his serving in that outfit is "dismal." Again, Bush DID receive an honorable discharge with the rank of Lt.
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There was nothing dishonorable about being a draft-resister or an opponent of the Vietnam war. Many of today's anti-Obama whackjobs go a good deal further toward disgrace and dishonor than the he!!-no-we-won't-go crowd of the 1960's. Then of course, there were the chicken-hawks. We know who some of those were. You want dishonor, there's a good place to start...
Yes, I suppose according to liberals, being a draft-dodger can be equated to being a hero. Bad enough he was a draft-dodger, but he (Clinton) also once said that he "loathes" the military. Years later, he becomes the Commander-in-Chief!" As George Putnam said back then ('92-'93), this is the age of insanity. I sadly agree. And it's continuing. Our current president could not even qualify to be his own bodyguard! Because of his acquaintance with a known domestic terrorist.
She cited Cronkite as "the model" journalist. She failed to mention he declared te Viet Nam war lost during the TET offensive even though we did not loose one single battle. We had the war won and he used his journalist news position to state opinion instead of news.
Second. She says FOX NEWS and shows a clip of Beck. As a journalist, I would hope she knows what she is talking about. She doenn't. The name of the channel is FOX News. All shows are on FOX News. Beck, Hannitty, O'Riley etc. are not news shows. The first half hour of Brett Baer is "news". The panel is opinion.
You have to seperate the two. She doesn't, on purpose.
She cited Cronkite as "the model" journalist. She failed to mention he declared te Viet Nam war lost during the TET offensive even though we did not loose one single battle. We had the war won and he used his journalist news position to state opinion instead of news.
Second. She says FOX NEWS and shows a clip of Beck. As a journalist, I would hope she knows what she is talking about. She doenn't. The name of the channel is FOX News. All shows are on FOX News. Beck, Hannitty, O'Riley etc. are not news shows. The first half hour of Brett Baer is "news". The panel is opinion.
You have to seperate the two. She doesn't, on purpose.
You missed the point.
Fox news shows were also promoting anti-obama/anti-government rallies.
Let me get this straight.The courts,meaning the government said Fox News is fake....hmmmm.Well that just gives them credibility in my mind.Any of you people ever here of Dread Scott or Tuskegee Alabama or Japanese American internment camps.If the government's official stance is anti Fox News than it is every American's patriotic duty to watch it.
What Dan Rather reported was later found to be inaccurate.
No, the content of the memos was not challenged. The original claims for their authenticity that Rather/CBS had sought and received were. Basically, the memos were criticized not for any lack of validity in what they said, but for not being demonstrably official copies of the original source materials.
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Those who serve in the National Guard would strongly disagree about his serving in that outfit is "dismal." Again, Bush DID receive an honorable discharge with the rank of Lt.
He got into the ANG as a rich-kid line-cutter. He did his job and flew around for a while, then he got bored and decided to move on to other things. Nobody missed him enough to make a big deal out of it under the circumstances. Line of least resistance...give him his papers and be done with him.
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Yes, I suppose according to liberals, being a draft-dodger can be equated to being a hero. Bad enough he was a draft-dodger, but he (Clinton) also once said that he "loathes" the military. Years later, he becomes the Commander-in-Chief!" As George Putnam said back then ('92-'93), this is the age of insanity. I sadly agree.
More right-wing fantasia. Clinton did not say that he loathed the military. After describing those he had known and what he had learned from his Oxford associations with draft resisters, he says in his letter to Col. Holmes, I am writing too in the hope that my telling this one story will help you understand more clearly how so many fine people have come to find themselves still loving their country but loathing the military, to which you and other good men have devoted years, lifetimes, of the best service you could give. He is not offering personal testimony, but describing the scene that he finds himself in. But never mind that. You all are the right-wing. You can just move words around and change their meanings whenever you want.
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And it's continuing. Our current president could not even qualify to be his own bodyguard! Because of his acquaintance with a known domestic terrorist.
Fantasia, Part Deux. Obama would have more problem over perhaps being too slight to qualify for Secret Service duty than he would over his work with Bill Ayers. The claim of his being unable to earn a security clearance is a complete hoax that only those particularly susceptible to hoaxes have fallen for. Anyone having any familiarity with actual security clearance procedures has laughed over this one from the moment the disinformation media first came up with it.
No, the content of the memos was not challenged. The original claims for their authenticity that Rather/CBS had sought and received were. Basically, the memos were criticized not for any lack of validity in what they said, but for not being demonstrably official copies of the original source materials.
Let's bottom line this CBS issue: Dan Rather screwed the hootch. He got caught. He was fired. He sued for being fired. He lost.
Bye Bye Dan
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