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Old 11-04-2009, 12:20 AM
 
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How far do you go with that argument? Should the southern states have been forced to integrate their schools? Should the bans on interracial marriage still be in place where a majority of the people disapprove of it?

Should the federal government have any control over state laws at all?
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Old 11-04-2009, 12:24 AM
 
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I am not a heavy believer in states right as well.

But I do agree with them up to a point. Like for casinos, suicide education, speeding tickets, etc etc. Minor things.

But as far as things that inflict on personal freedom-abortion, gay marriage-it should be federal and every state should follow.
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Old 11-04-2009, 12:28 AM
 
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How far do you go with that argument? Should the southern states have been forced to integrate their schools? Should the bans on interracial marriage still be in place where a majority of the people disapprove of it?

Should the federal government have any control over state laws at all?
The federal government should only have control over state laws when those powers are expressly designated to them by the Constitution of the United States.

The federal government should not be abusing the interstate commerce clause or blackmailing states with highway funding to forces states to adopt laws or using the Supreme Court to trample states rights and impose the values of whatever liberal or conservative majority is on the bench on every state in the country.

Some examples of what I consider an abuse of state's rights:

National 21 drinking age

Federal Hate Crime laws

No Child Left Behind

National speed limit of 70 on interstate/55 on any other road

Anything marriage related. That is expressly delegated to the states by the Constitution.

Federal gun control laws

This health plan if it does not allow states to opt out

Non federally funded entitlement programs

Roe v Wade
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Old 11-04-2009, 12:30 AM
 
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How far do you go with that argument? Should the southern states have been forced to integrate their schools? Should the bans on interracial marriage still be in place where a majority of the people disapprove of it?

Should the federal government have any control over state laws at all?
That's a good question. I'd have to answer, yes and yes. That being said, I'd guarantee that interracial marriage would be approved in all 50 states overwhelmingly.
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Old 11-04-2009, 12:31 AM
 
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That's a good question. I'd have to answer, yes and yes. That being said, I'd guarantee that interracial marriage would be approved in all 50 states overwhelmingly.
I hope you are right. Although, honestly Sonrise....I doubt it.
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Old 11-04-2009, 12:38 AM
 
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The federal government should only have control over state laws when those powers are expressly designated to them by the Constitution of the United States.
Thanks for your response. I know this is an issue you care about.

Regarding the drinking age, I wonder if most people are aware that it was Elizabeth Dole who was largely responsible for that. In fact, I believed she pushed for the drinking age to be 24 or 25.
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Old 11-04-2009, 12:40 AM
 
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That's a good question. I'd have to answer, yes and yes. That being said, I'd guarantee that interracial marriage would be approved in all 50 states overwhelmingly.
Really? Based on what? It wasn't until the 1990s that a majority of Americans approved of interracial marriage. I would imagine that even in 2009, there would be at least a few states where interracial marriage could be repealed in a referendum.
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Old 11-04-2009, 12:42 AM
 
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Thanks for your response. I know this is an issue you care about.

Regarding the drinking age, I wonder if most people are aware that it was Elizabeth Dole who was largely responsible for that. In fact, I believed she pushed for the drinking age to be 24 or 25.
I didn't know that specifically, but I do know that the law passed under Reagan's watch and No Child Left Behind was Bush's idea. Republicans aren't all that much better at respecting state's rights than Democrats are.
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Old 11-04-2009, 12:43 AM
 
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Really? Based on what? It wasn't until the 1990s that a majority of Americans approved of interracial marriage. I would imagine that even in 2009, there would be at least a few states where interracial marriage could be repealed in a referendum.
You gotta link for that? We'll never know about your last comment, and just have to agree to disagree; but like that ignorant hillbilly judge in Louisiana, the ignorant good ole boys are dying off.
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Old 11-04-2009, 12:44 AM
 
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You gotta link for that?
Of course.

Most Americans Approve of Interracial Marriages

As you can see, when the U.S. Supreme Court forced the states to allow same-sex marriage in all states, only a small majority of American approved of it. So here we are today, with some arguing that same-sex marriage should only be allowed when a majority approves of it. I understand that argument, but it's certainly not congruent with the history of interracial marriage in this country.
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