What happened to the two-party system?

[TheCaliforniaBear]

Originally Posted by Buzz is Back

There is still a 2 party system in the USA

The republican party which is the white power party and the Democratic party-which is similar to western European democratic socialists.

That's not true. There is actually little or no difference between the parties.

They make themselves appear different to create the illusion of choice and democracy, but they are all on the exact same page.

To paraphrase what Jesse The Body Ventura said : "Politics is like pro wrestling. They act like they are fighting and they hate each other in public for the cameras. But backstage they are planning it all out and laughing about it afterwards. It's all just a show."

[whoisjongalt]

Originally Posted by Redshadowz

Look at it like this. Lets pretend that half of the country is currently Republican and half are Democrats. Then lets pretend that half of the current Republican party was actually libertarian. Well currently libertarians vote Republican, so what if they instead voted libertarian on the ballot?

25% would vote Republican
25% would vote Libertarian
50% would vote Democrat - Democrats win

So libertarians are basically forced to vote Republican, even if they only agree with them on maybe 51% of the issues because they agree with democrats on only 49% of the issues.

If you are voting for a 3rd party candidate right now, you are basically voting against yourself.

"There's the rub!" But there IS no real choice unless there is a third party. I'd rather vote for the Libertarian than the lesser of two evils.

[eric#1]

Originally Posted by Redshadowz

Look at it like this. Lets pretend that half of the country is currently Republican and half are Democrats. Then lets pretend that half of the current Republican party was actually libertarian. Well currently libertarians vote Republican, so what if they instead voted libertarian on the ballot?

25% would vote Republican
25% would vote Libertarian
50% would vote Democrat - Democrats win

So libertarians are basically forced to vote Republican, even if they only agree with them on maybe 51% of the issues because they agree with democrats on only 49% of the issues.

If you are voting for a 3rd party candidate right now, you are basically voting against yourself.

No mention of independents oversimplifies your equation. I understand the math and always have and from what I figure your willing to crap on the group you identify with in order to support something you see as barely discernable from the other. Changing things rarely entails doing things the same as before and never voting for the candidate you want helps guarantee you will never see somone you want in office.

[ParkTwain]

Originally Posted by whoisjongalt

Much as I'd like a third party, we don't even have a two-party system. We have a one-party system. Both parties endorse the welfare state and corporatism. Both support interventionism overseas. Both support bigger government. Both support chipping away at individual rights. Both support deficit spending. The only politician of either party I have any respect left for is Ron Paul.

This is not a very perspicacious point of view on your part. Perhaps you should read more American history and learn the roots of the key principles of each of today's major parties. There is American history that took place before the career of Barry Goldwater.

You might also make a project for yourself to learn the history of the US armed forces and their role in shaping decisions by elected officials in Washington on both domestic and foreign policy.