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Old 11-11-2009, 05:22 PM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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Unbelievable that there are still some in America filled with the Joseph McCarthy Paranoia.....
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Old 11-11-2009, 05:27 PM
 
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All of this Capitalistic security is fantastic for us unstable socialists. It has allowed China to have America tucked deep in its pockets and many many Brits, for example, to come over to the USA and make a killing on buying property. I myself know at least a dozen brits that have just bought houses and even multiple houses in the USA. Damn this Socialism is such a failure....lmao
Have you not noticed why China has advanced so much in the past 3 decades? It's not because they became more socialist or communist.... Have you taken notice of China's GDP per capita?

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GDP - per capita (PPP):
$6,000 (2008 est.)
country comparison to the world: 133 $5,500 (2007 est.)
$4,900 (2006 est.)
note: data are in 2008 US dollars
China

With a billion people wouldn't you think they should be extremely productive?
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Old 11-11-2009, 05:33 PM
 
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My tax Dollars for ALL American citizens..... Not just benefiting the greedy "fat cats" as is the case now.
Your tax dollars don't go to the greedy now do they? Is there some illegal activity making someone rich with your tax dollars? If so you should report them to the federal government... I'm sure there is something quite illegal about someone personally gaining money from a tax put forth by the federal government. Or wait... that's the federal government giving your tax dollars to these fat cats. Makes you think they should have just let those companies die huh? Socialism truly at work...
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Old 11-11-2009, 05:33 PM
 
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Have you not noticed why China has advanced so much in the past 3 decades? It's not because they became more socialist or communist.... Have you taken notice of China's GDP per capita?
China just approved single payer universal health coverage to start in 2011.
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Old 11-11-2009, 05:33 PM
 
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As i said.... McCarthy would be so proud of some on here.
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Old 11-11-2009, 05:36 PM
 
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Your tax dollars don't go to the greedy now do they? Is there some illegal activity making someone rich with your tax dollars? If so you should report them to the federal government... I'm sure there is something quite illegal about someone personally gaining money from a tax put forth by the federal government. Or wait... that's the federal government giving your tax dollars to these fat cats. Makes you think they should have just let those companies die huh? Socialism truly at work...
Many Companies in America have destroyed themselves due to their absolute greed. They don't mind being bailed out by the Govt. or getting tax payers money to fix their mistakes and corruption....they don't disaprove of Socialistic methods, taking our tax dollars when THEY need it.
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Old 11-11-2009, 05:38 PM
 
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Your tax dollars don't go to the greedy now do they? Is there some illegal activity making someone rich with your tax dollars? If so you should report them to the federal government... I'm sure there is something quite illegal about someone personally gaining money from a tax put forth by the federal government. Or wait... that's the federal government giving your tax dollars to these fat cats. Makes you think they should have just let those companies die huh? Socialism truly at work...
What you have described isn't socialism, it's corporate socialism, or simply, FASCISM.


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Have you not noticed why China has advanced so much in the past 3 decades? It's not because they became more socialist or communist.... Have you taken notice of China's GDP per capita?

China

With a billion people wouldn't you think they should be extremely productive?
China is a hybrid of socialism, capitalism, and autocracy. Infrastructure and ownership of vital industries are socialized: rail, shipping, public transportation, communication, resource, banking, etc. For example, China Shipping and COSCO sending Chinese goods to the port of Long Beach are state-owned enterprises. China isn't capitalist, China is mercantilist.
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Old 11-11-2009, 05:39 PM
 
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Unbelievable that there are still some in America filled with the Joseph McCarthy Paranoia.....
Venona - NSA/CSS
Remembrances of Venona by Mr. William P. Crowell - NSA/CSS
Venona Chronology - NSA/CSS
Venona Dated Documents - NSA/CSS
http://www.nsa.gov/about/_files/cryp...nona_story.pdf
Venona Undated Documents - NSA/CSS

Just sayin'....
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Old 11-11-2009, 05:40 PM
 
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If youi want to live like the soviets did then go ahead;but it is not fine with me. he only poeople who think its fine asre the deadbeats that do better of sate income than on their own alos as far as getting ahead. You certainly are not conservative of you think governamnt running things is good. Socailism is when the governamnt controls the means of prodcution and the revenues produced.The opposite of capitalism where there is private ownership and they retein the revenues of the production.
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Old 11-11-2009, 05:44 PM
 
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China just approved single payer universal health coverage to start in 2011.
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Mao's Cooperativ Medical System was spartan but universal and essentially free- a poor man's version of Britiain's Beveridge Model. it produced impressive results: from 1952 to 1982, life expectancy in China increased from 35 to 68 years, and many contagious diseases were controlled. In the early 1980s, though, this government-run system essentially shut down, and China reverted to the Out-of-Pocket model for most of its 1.3 billion people.
Learning from China's healthcare disaster. | Gather

But wait! You have some in here wondering how China was able to buy up America in the past 3 decades. Do you see the cause and effect? And this is from an article advising UHC.... The people gained substantial health-care increases right? The problem is China's increase in GDP and GDP per capita was severally diminished.
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