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Old 12-15-2009, 10:07 AM
 
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GORE: The north polar ice cap is melting before our very eyes. It's been the size of the continental United States for most of the last 3 million years. And now suddenly 40 percent of it's gone and the rest of it is expected to disappear within five, 10, 15 years.

Forty percent of the polar ice caps are not gone and it's preposterous to believe that they will totally disappear within 10 years. In September of 2007, there was a 25 percent reduction to the usual minimum ice cover. In the two years since, nearly all of the ice has returned.


Its just amazing how people keep listening to that "IDIOT"...
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Old 12-15-2009, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Edwardsville, IL
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And here's the Goreacle now (credit Sanrene for that brill one), validating his claim like a good Nobel Putz Prize winner:

http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/Al-Gore-R.jpg (broken link)

Al: EPIC FAIL
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Old 12-15-2009, 10:14 AM
 
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EL Gordo is legally insane and will say anything. According to this nutcase our earths core is millions of degrees. In other words we are now the sun
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Old 12-15-2009, 10:14 AM
 
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Old, "multiyear" ice -- the glue that holds the polar ice cap together and forms the Arctic's defense against encroaching warming -- is slowly disintegrating, a process that is plain to see from the air.

Arctic ice cover this year was 23 percent greater than the record-low levels of 2007, according to the latest data from the National Snow and Ice Data Center at the University of Colorado, which has been keeping records for 30 years. But it was the third-lowest coverage on record, after 2007 and 2008.

The one-year ice that accounts for the increase over 2007 and 2008 -- pancake-flat pieces with finger-like surface ridges etched by movements of the water -- is no substitute for the thick multiyear ice, Overland said.

Vanishing Arctic ice shows no sign of returning | Reuters

ya, hilarious.
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Old 12-15-2009, 10:23 AM
 
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GORE: The north polar ice cap is melting before our very eyes. It's been the size of the continental United States for most of the last 3 million years. And now suddenly 40 percent of it's gone and the rest of it is expected to disappear within five, 10, 15 years.

Forty percent of the polar ice caps are not gone and it's preposterous to believe that they will totally disappear within 10 years. In September of 2007, there was a 25 percent reduction to the usual minimum ice cover. In the two years since, nearly all of the ice has returned.


Its just amazing how people keep listening to that "IDIOT"...
Got anything to back up your statement: "Forty percent of the polar ice caps are not gone"?

That should be an easy one for you.

Seems to me that there are interesting parallels between the reaction of a lot of "folks" to man-made global warming/climate change and that old story in the bible about Noah and the Ark. How many people got into the Ark??? LOL LOL How many people believed there would be a flood? Tony&Claire, are you a Christain? Do you believe the bible is a factual record?
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Old 12-15-2009, 10:31 AM
 
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Old, "multiyear" ice -- the glue that holds the polar ice cap together and forms the Arctic's defense against encroaching warming -- is slowly disintegrating, a process that is plain to see from the air.

Arctic ice cover this year was 23 percent greater than the record-low levels of 2007, according to the latest data from the National Snow and Ice Data Center at the University of Colorado, which has been keeping records for 30 years. But it was the third-lowest coverage on record, after 2007 and 2008.

The one-year ice that accounts for the increase over 2007 and 2008 -- pancake-flat pieces with finger-like surface ridges etched by movements of the water -- is no substitute for the thick multiyear ice, Overland said.

Vanishing Arctic ice shows no sign of returning | Reuters

ya, hilarious.
Think a bit...

The ice is coming back, of course it will be thin ice, this is normal for new ice growth. It is a process of return which forms "multiyear" ice as the name implies.

So basically, it is an improvement from what it was, but they need to find some way to support their position, so they criticize any improvement and speculate how that improvement is really a problem.

Now they are using terms like "rotten ice" and garbage political spin words to make everyone think that good news is really just bad news.

I imagine that if there is continued growth, we will be shown how this is really just bad news. The field is so politically driven right now that I feel stupid after reading about it. /sigh
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Old 12-15-2009, 10:32 AM
 
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Gore, speaking at the Copenhagen climate change summit, stated the latest research showed that the Arctic could be completely ice-free in five years.
In his speech, Gore told the conference: "These figures are fresh. Some of the models suggest to Dr. [Wieslav] Maslowski that there is a 75 percent chance that the entire north polar ice cap, during the summer months, could be completely ice-free within five to seven years."
However, the climatologist whose work Gore was relying upon dropped the former vice president in the water with an icy blast.
"It's unclear to me how this figure was arrived at," Dr. Maslowski said. "I would never try to estimate likelihood at anything as exact as this."
Gore's office later admitted that the 75 percent figure was one used by Dr. Maslowski as a "ballpark figure" several years ago in a conversation with Gore

Yeah rkb0305 its hilarious...
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Old 12-15-2009, 10:34 AM
 
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Going down

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Old 12-15-2009, 10:35 AM
 
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Old, "multiyear" ice -- the glue that holds the polar ice cap together and forms the Arctic's defense against encroaching warming -- is slowly disintegrating, a process that is plain to see from the air.

Arctic ice cover this year was 23 percent greater than the record-low levels of 2007, according to the latest data from the National Snow and Ice Data Center at the University of Colorado, which has been keeping records for 30 years. But it was the third-lowest coverage on record, after 2007 and 2008.

The one-year ice that accounts for the increase over 2007 and 2008 -- pancake-flat pieces with finger-like surface ridges etched by movements of the water -- is no substitute for the thick multiyear ice, Overland said.

Vanishing Arctic ice shows no sign of returning | Reuters

ya, hilarious.
Vanishing?



Looks like first-year sea ice, which is very thin and most susceptible to melting, did not melt and now it has grown into second-year sea ice. The "30 year" figure a lot of people cite, comes from a time when satellite data was first made available and it was during a time when bitter cold caused the science community to speculate on the coming ice-age.

The "30 year" period is convenient for charts and graphs to depict a warming trend, and is the same as the graphs that start in little ice-age period of the 1800s. Both examples pick a time of record cold to illustrate a deceptive warming trend.
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Old 12-15-2009, 10:36 AM
 
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rlchurch...refuses to believe Global Warming is a Hoax

The new deniers...pathetic
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