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Old 12-22-2009, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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A Cure For America’s Healthcare Problem: Euthanasia
An attempt to compromise with conservatives...
Over 40 million Americans have no health insurance to cover costs if they need medical care. For these people the conservatives (nor the insurance industry) offer no solutions. Consequently, those people with no financial means have no alternative but to die a slow death. Of course, the conservatives (and the insurance industry) don’t consider this as a problem; it’s no skin off the conservative butt. It's understandable why conservatives (and the insurance industry) are so adamantly opposed to any healthcare reform.
so the liberal solution is to FORCE everyone to BUY medical INSURANCE from these evil INSURANCE companies or go to the 'government' option INSURANCE....this is what liberl just dont get----INSURANCE IS NOT CARE---

btw...the insurance companies LOVE the house plan, since it MANDATES people BUY insurance

40 million americans dont have INSURANCE, that doesnt mean they dont have health CARE....a majority CHOOSE not to BUY health insurance...I was one of them before I got married

and the current bills infront of congress do NOTHING to lower the ACTUAL cost of medical care.


here's an idea...if you go to the doctor, pay for the SERVICE RENDERED....""personal resposibility"", a word liberals just cant understand
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Old 12-22-2009, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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No, really. That is a very pro-choice view. Right in line with most liberal views. And, euthanasia is not that far off. Some foreign countries already practice it as part of their socialized, humane healthcare system. Keeps the costs down, you know. Like you said in your post.
Exactly! Keeping costs down. Isn't that the main concern of conservatives? So I assume you would favor the OP, or, at least, give it some thought.
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Old 12-22-2009, 07:41 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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Exactly! Keeping costs down. Isn't that the main concern of conservatives? So I assume you would favor the OP, or, at least, give it some thought.
Danger alert! Never, ever, ASS u ME anything.

p.s. do you have insurance? I thought so. Otherwise you wouldn't be endorsing this program. Gee, that makes you sound like a conservative!
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Old 12-22-2009, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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Danger alert! Never, ever, ASS u ME anything.

p.s. do you have insurance? I thought so. Otherwise you wouldn't be endorsing this program. Gee, that makes you sound like a conservative!
Thanks for your kind sentiments. But Surprise! I haven't had any health insurance since mid-2005. Fortunately, I don't have any health problems, but that could all change very suddenly.
A previous poster mentioned 'personal responsibility'. A doctor's visit is not terribly expensive. But a doctor's visit may not be enough to treat any health problems. Often a doctor's visit is only the beginning of a long and expensive treatment phase. I don't know about you people, but $50K-$60K is not exactly pocket change to me. Surgery is expensive. Hospitalization is expensive. And for those without health insurance medical treatment is something they must do without.
So, yes I would choose euthanasia.
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Old 12-22-2009, 08:34 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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I have heard it said - and I haven't checked into it - that costs are different if one pays for the service instead of passing through insurance. In other words, a doctor's visit would be a lower charge if paid directly by the patient. Does anyone know if that is true?

There are physicians who are forming their own "insurance" pools by having patients pay a flat annual fee that covers as many visits as one needs. Not sure how that works, but I've read that it's growing in popularity.

I'm all for insuring people against catastrophic illnesses, and footing the bill through taxes for those who can't afford it. I'm also for those who can afford it to be responsible enough to pay their own premiums.

There's also a big difference between illness that is treatable and that which is terminal. I know, I know...we're all terminal...but you know what I mean.

I'm not in favor or rubbing people out just to save costs, terminal or not, though I know that there are many who are proponents of euthanasia for various reasons, not only to save costs but to control population. It's all heinous to me.

But, as I said, I believe we'll see it become as acceptable as abortion is in certain segments of our society.
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Old 12-22-2009, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Rome, Georgia
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A Cure For America’s Healthcare Problem: Euthanasia
An attempt to compromise with conservatives...
Over 40 million Americans have no health insurance to cover costs if they need medical care. For these people the conservatives (nor the insurance industry) offer no solutions. Consequently, those people with no financial means have no alternative but to die a slow death. Of course, the conservatives (and the insurance industry) don’t consider this as a problem; it’s no skin off the conservative butt. It's understandable why conservatives (and the insurance industry) are so adamantly opposed to any healthcare reform.

So, instead of healthcare reform...Euthanasia!
Doctor Jack Kevorkian constructed a simple contraption for euthanasia. That contraption could be simplified even further, mass produced, and sold over the counter (without prescription) to anyone of legal age (21). Maybe for a sum of $50 or less. The do-it-yourself kit (in patriotic red, white, and blue packaging) could also include a small American flag to wave while the euthanized softly sings God Bless America with his/her dying breath.
Euthanasia is a win/win situation: the sick can avoid needless suffering, the taxpayers would save vast sums of money and not fear that America will become a commie country.
Hardy-Har-Har. You first.
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Old 12-22-2009, 08:45 PM
 
Location: NC, USA
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PLEASE tell me this is sarcasm.
I think the word I would have used was "satire".
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Old 12-22-2009, 08:45 PM
 
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I have heard it said - and I haven't checked into it - that costs are different if one pays for the service instead of passing through insurance. In other words, a doctor's visit would be a lower charge if paid directly by the patient. Does anyone know if that is true?
The uninsured pay more for the same service rendered. Providers and insurance companies negotiate contracted rates, which are less than what someone without insurance will be charged.
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Old 12-22-2009, 09:15 PM
 
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Read "Animal Farm" what the O.P. is suggesting is really eugenics.
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Old 12-22-2009, 09:23 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Visvaldis View Post
A Cure For America’s Healthcare Problem: Euthanasia
An attempt to compromise with conservatives...
Over 40 million Americans have no health insurance to cover costs if they need medical care. For these people the conservatives (nor the insurance industry) offer no solutions. Consequently, those people with no financial means have no alternative but to die a slow death. Of course, the conservatives (and the insurance industry) don’t consider this as a problem; it’s no skin off the conservative butt. It's understandable why conservatives (and the insurance industry) are so adamantly opposed to any healthcare reform.

So, instead of healthcare reform...Euthanasia!
Doctor Jack Kevorkian constructed a simple contraption for euthanasia. That contraption could be simplified even further, mass produced, and sold over the counter (without prescription) to anyone of legal age (21). Maybe for a sum of $50 or less. The do-it-yourself kit (in patriotic red, white, and blue packaging) could also include a small American flag to wave while the euthanized softly sings God Bless America with his/her dying breath.
Euthanasia is a win/win situation: the sick can avoid needless suffering, the taxpayers would save vast sums of money and not fear that America will become a commie country.
WELL if you were realistically going to be sarcastic, you'd know that conservatives are too cheap to pay for the kevorkian kit when a used drycleaning bag or half a can of drano would suffice.

Sheeesh liberal spendthrifts!
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