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Old 10-26-2010, 10:15 AM
 
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not the conspiracy, the cdc

 
Old 10-26-2010, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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not the conspiracy, the cdc
What?
 
Old 10-26-2010, 10:30 AM
 
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What?
Bingo!
 
Old 10-26-2010, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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autism is GENETIC

IF it had anything to due with incoulations..then the stats would not be 1/105,,it would be closed to 1/1

it is genetic
 
Old 10-26-2010, 10:56 AM
 
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autism is GENETIC

IF it had anything to due with incoulations..then the stats would not be 1/105,,it would be closed to 1/1

it is genetic
Soooo . . It's those illegal aliens comprising the pandemic stats.


From what planet does this alien genome come?
 
Old 10-26-2010, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Soooo . . It's those illegal aliens comprising the pandemic stats.


From what planet does this alien genome come?
huh???

autism is genetic...

just like huntingtons desease
 
Old 10-26-2010, 11:02 AM
 
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huh???

autism is genetic...

just like huntingtons desease
Where genes are involved, trust no one!
 
Old 10-26-2010, 03:10 PM
 
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autism is GENETIC

IF it had anything to due with incoulations..then the stats would not be 1/105,,it would be closed to 1/1

it is genetic
I've got some catching up to do, and this is a PERFECT PLACE to start.

Given the increase from 1 in 5000 cases of autism in the 1980's, to just under 1 in 100 today ... (including an exponential explosion between 1989 and 1999) thoroughly dismisses a "genetic" link as even a remote possibility unless a MASSIVE genetic mutation has occurred in the human species within a 10 year cycle, never before seen in life sciences. Such a claim is patently absurd at every level.

What ALL evidence and common bloody sense points to is an environmental cause for this epidemic of autism. Any "genetic" link would be related to the ability of some children to withstand this neurological attack without the manifestation of autistic symptoms as compared to those children who aren't so lucky. And though the majority of children do show the ability to do so, doesn't mean that those that do not have some genetic defect. Nor does it mean that children who do not develop autistic symptoms are not neurologically compromised, with milder forms of brain dysfunction not clinically consistent with autism.

Given the huge jump from relative obscurity to alarming frequency .... a 500% increase (with some scientists claim a 1,500 % increase since 1991) ... in such a short window in time ... an environmental cause is the ONLY reasonable hypothesis. And ... given that autism is a neurological disorder, manifesting in a malfunction in normal brain development, neurotoxins, from what ever environmental source is the only reasonable path for legitimate investigation ... mercury being the most potent of those potential neurotoxins. And that is exactly where almost all of the research has focussed.

Russian scientists determined a link between ethylmercury in thimerosal and brain development disorders as early as the 1970's, leading to an absolute ban on the use of it in 1980 ... 30 years ago. So this is not "new science", but a very old problem that most of the developed nations around the world have long since addressed by also banning it's use .... except of course, the good ole USA and those stalwarts at the FDA who have run a decades long coverup for big Pharma, at the expense of children's health to whom the vaccine industry claims to be safeguarding.

The level of propaganda, obfuscations, distortions, data manipulations, withholding of clinical study results, and outright lies regarding the link between vaccinations and autism knows no comparative scientific fraud in the 20th century with the only possible exception being anthropogenic global warming.

And even though MOST childhood vaccines have eliminated thimerosal by moving to single dose distribution, and the deniers point to this removal of thimerosal coupled with the continued instances of autism as proof that thimerosal was not the cause ... they ignore the fact that more and more vaccines have been added to the childhood schedule, along with the fact that trace amounts of mercury are still present in every one of them, as a byproduct of the manufacturing process. When those trace amounts present in each vaccine is multiplied by the increased number of vaccines in the childhood schedule, the cumulative amount of mercury overall exceeds 12.5 mcgs. Though this amount is only half as much mercury as would be found in just one vaccine using thimerosal, this 12.5 mcg is still exceeds the safe amount of environmental ingested mercury by a factor of 100 times, as stipulated by the EPA.

What makes this even more SUSPECT is the fact that ALL of the safety studies done, and those EPA guidelines address "ingested" methylmercury ... the common form found in the environment as byproducts of industrial pollution from industry .. most often associated with fish from contaminated waters ... Tuna being one of the most common ones.

This is an IMPORTANT distinction that is so RARELY mentioned, that most people don't even know about the differences, and simply assume that the safety claims being made by the FDA and the Pharmaceutical industry actually addresses the type of mercury in vaccines, when nothing could be further from the truth.

The form of mercury (ethylmercury) "INJECTED" directly into the bloodstream in vaccines are much smaller molecules than that of "INGESTED" methylmercury, and pass the blood brain barrier quite easily .. which is obviously pertinent to the conversation relative to neurological toxicity. Avoiding this rather obvious and pertinent distinction is just part of the overall fraud being perpetrated, PURPOSELY.

And, rather than address this dramatic increase in autism in a legitimate and honest fashion by concentrating efforts in finding the cause, the majority focus of the FDA and medical community has been to dishonestly disprove and exonerate vaccines and mercury as the culprit, rather than simply address the problem from a purely unbiased scientific perspective.

Some of this may be "well meaning" fraud, in the sense that proponents of vaccines may believe that the end justifies the means, and that the damage caused to 1% of the children is an acceptable level of damage for the greater good. This is of little comfort to those children damaged, and is an illegitimate rationalization given the accompanying levels of fraud overstating vaccine effectiveness in saving lives.

One of the best, and most obvous examples of the level of fraud and propaganda being employed is depicted in these two contradictory claims ... one is purely scientific, and the other pure propaganda and lies ...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHqVDMr9ivo

Here we have the pure science showing the neurotoxicity of mercury, and the detailed laboratory analysis of the mechanisms of action describing EXACTLY how mercury destroys brain neurons.

Then, we have this news report claiming that two new studies reported in the Journal of Pediatrics are showing that mercury may ENHANCE brain function and mental performance of children:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru3tOVzgQ5Y

And no doubt, the brilliant minds of those promoting the latter "scientific" studies somehow find it perfectly feasible that a substance that destroys brain neurons can actually enhance mental performance?

I can find no adequate single term in the english language that defines this Orwellian double talk. Pure, unadulterated, mindless nonsense absent an iota of legitimacy or fundamental common sense even falls dramatically short.

Laughable ... though not the least bit funny ... this type of pure nonsense thoroughly DESTROYS any perceived credibility on the part of the medical scientific community .... relegating the editors of the "Journal of Pediatrics" to the status of a competitor to such RAGS as the National Inquirer, and their stories of women giving birth to 200 Lb Alien babies.

When medical science finds itself capable of promoting such blatant nonsense, there can be only ONE CONCLUSION .... nobody can trust a SINGLE THING being reported by them.

Of course, I anxiously await a legitimate explanation for how mercury .... a scientifically proven neurotoxin can actually enhance mental performance. Those that do will be self identifying themselves as members of the 200 lb alien baby club of National Inquirer subscribers as having no credibility as well.

There you have it ... now have at it.
 
Old 10-26-2010, 03:43 PM
 
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Questions I want answers to:

Why are the rates of learning disabilities down?

Why have the rates of mental retardation fallen?

Why are identical twins more likely to both be diagnosed with autism?

Why don't the symptoms of mercury poisoning and autism match?

What is the difference between ethyl mercury and methyl mercury?

What vaccines should we get rid of?

How do we treat vaccine preventable diseases?

Why would the Journal of Pediatrics lie?

What is meant by the phrase the dose makes the poison?

I'll be in the corner banging my head against a wall yet again.
 
Old 10-26-2010, 04:06 PM
 
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And to add to Eleanora1s questions...

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Originally Posted by GuyNTexas View Post
Russian scientists determined a link between ethylmercury in thimerosal and brain development disorders as early as the 1970's, leading to an absolute ban on the use of it in 1980 ... 30 years ago. So this is not "new science", but a very old problem that most of the developed nations around the world have long since addressed by also banning it's use.
Why hasn't this changed their incidence of autism?

I mean, if there was even the vaguest link, you'd think that when the rest of the world banned its use 30 years ago, it would impact their autism rates in some fashion.

So why hasn't it? Why does Japans autism rates keep incresing at exactly the same rate as before after they stopped using MMR? Why is the only thing that changes more kids dying from preventable diseases?

Its not like its just the US that does research on it. With vaccine programs being so well recorded and large, they are exceptionally well fitted for epidemological studies.
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