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Old 12-30-2009, 09:32 PM
 
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Aks vs Ask. Is Aks a real word or do some people just don't know how to say the work ask.
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Old 12-30-2009, 09:33 PM
 
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It's a black thing. You wouldn't understand.

(At least that was the excuse back in the 80's)
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Old 12-30-2009, 09:39 PM
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Rather than just add fuel to the fire, I thought I would share some actual facts.

The Mavens' Word of the Day

December 16, 1999


ax - ask


Sam Sherwood wrote:
There is a guy in my office who has a heavy southern accent and he says "ax" instead of "ask". When questioned he claims it's a regional pronunciation (Mississippi area), but I don't understand this since it sounds to me more like a regional mispronunciation. There is also a man in my office from the Bahamas and he too says "ax." Can you explain?
Thank you for asking (aksing) this question.

While the pronunciation /aks/ for ask is not considered standard, it is a very common regional pronunciation with a long history. The Old English verb áscian underwent a normal linguistic process called metathesis sometime in the 14th century. Metathesis is what occurs when two sounds or syllables switch places in a word. This happens all the time in spoken language (think nuclear pronounced as /nukular/ and asterisk pronounced as /asteriks/).

Metathesis is usually a slip of the tongue, but (as in the cases of /asteriks/ and /nukular/) it can become a variant of the original word. This alternative version in Old English was axian or acsian, as in Chaucer's: "I axe, why the fyfte man Was nought housband to the Samaritan?" (Wife's Prologue 1386). Ascian and axian co-existed and evolved separately in various regions of England. The ascian version gives us the modern standard English ask, but the axian variant ax can still be found in England's Midland and Southern dialects.

In American English, the /aks/ pronunciation was originally dominant in New England. The popularity of this pronunciation faded in the North early in the 19th century as it became more common in the South. Today the pronunciation is perceived in the US as either Southern or African-American. Both of these perceptions underestimate the popularity of the form.

/aks/ is still found frequently in the South, and is a characteristic of some speech communities as far North as New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Illinois and Iowa. It is one of the shared characteristics between African-American English and Southern dialects of American English. The wide distribution of speakers from these two groups accounts for the presence of the /aks/ pronunciation in Northern urban communities.

So in fact, your colleague is correct in calling /aks/ a regional pronunciation, one with a distribution that covers nearly half of the territory in the United States and England
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Old 12-30-2009, 09:39 PM
 
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It's a black thing. You wouldn't understand.

(At least that was the excuse back in the 80's)
Oh, So it is more a slang word.
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Old 12-30-2009, 09:39 PM
 
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Shouldn't this be in the Writing forum?
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Old 12-30-2009, 09:42 PM
 
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Aks vs Ask. Is Aks a real word or do some people just don't know how to say the work ask.
I'm not too sure about this thread.
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Old 12-30-2009, 09:42 PM
 
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Originally Posted by LML View Post
Rather than just add fuel to the fire, I thought I would share some actual facts.

The Mavens' Word of the Day

December 16, 1999


ax - ask


Sam Sherwood wrote:
There is a guy in my office who has a heavy southern accent and he says "ax" instead of "ask". When questioned he claims it's a regional pronunciation (Mississippi area), but I don't understand this since it sounds to me more like a regional mispronunciation. There is also a man in my office from the Bahamas and he too says "ax." Can you explain?
Thank you for asking (aksing) this question.

While the pronunciation /aks/ for ask is not considered standard, it is a very common regional pronunciation with a long history. The Old English verb áscian underwent a normal linguistic process called metathesis sometime in the 14th century. Metathesis is what occurs when two sounds or syllables switch places in a word. This happens all the time in spoken language (think nuclear pronounced as /nukular/ and asterisk pronounced as /asteriks/).

Metathesis is usually a slip of the tongue, but (as in the cases of /asteriks/ and /nukular/) it can become a variant of the original word. This alternative version in Old English was axian or acsian, as in Chaucer's: "I axe, why the fyfte man Was nought housband to the Samaritan?" (Wife's Prologue 1386). Ascian and axian co-existed and evolved separately in various regions of England. The ascian version gives us the modern standard English ask, but the axian variant ax can still be found in England's Midland and Southern dialects.

In American English, the /aks/ pronunciation was originally dominant in New England. The popularity of this pronunciation faded in the North early in the 19th century as it became more common in the South. Today the pronunciation is perceived in the US as either Southern or African-American. Both of these perceptions underestimate the popularity of the form.

/aks/ is still found frequently in the South, and is a characteristic of some speech communities as far North as New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Illinois and Iowa. It is one of the shared characteristics between African-American English and Southern dialects of American English. The wide distribution of speakers from these two groups accounts for the presence of the /aks/ pronunciation in Northern urban communities.

So in fact, your colleague is correct in calling /aks/ a regional pronunciation, one with a distribution that covers nearly half of the territory in the United States and England
Thanks,
I have customers all day long saying aks instead of ask and it makes me wonder. I live in Memphis which is southern so that explains it then. It just sounds wrong but I stay corrected. Thanks again.
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Old 12-30-2009, 09:44 PM
 
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George W. Bush and Jimmy Carter couldn't pronounce the word "nuclear" correctly.
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Old 12-30-2009, 09:46 PM
 
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George W. Bush and Jimmy Carter couldn't pronounce the word "nuclear" correctly.
I remember hearing about that. HAHA.
I can't pronounce the word refrigerator. My husband even breaks the word up for me but I still mess it up.
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Old 12-30-2009, 09:46 PM
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George W. Bush and Jimmy Carter couldn't pronounce the word "nuclear" correctly.
Heck, my kids razz the heck out of me because I say "zink" instead of "sink." I really try to remember but I grew up hearing my daddy say it that way and I guess it is inbedded now at this advanced age.
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