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The New England Firefighters won their case, thank goodness. I'm so glad I graduated college before all this NAACP business started because you know they will require x % of the graduating class in the Honor Roll to be whatever. It will get that bad. When I call 911 to have them send the EMTs to my house because my young child stopped breathing, I don't want the person whom was hired because of their race; I want the best (whomever that may be).
It's just like the NYFD getting recommendations by Black firefighting organizations to only hire 60% Blacks and Hispanics and only 40% other. Other being White, Asian, Indian whatever. The fact that the NYFD is looking seriously at this at all shows how insane things have gotten.
Affirmative Action and minority preferences will be the downfall of this country.
Color, race, gender over skill and experience lands people jobs these days and I believe it's more pronounced in government work or government contract work.
I'm a girl and I've turned down opportunities at my company because I knew my name was put forward to play the "girl" card rather than my name put forward because of my skills.
I'm a programmer (20 years systems programmer) and I'm a girl. In this field that is a minority and I have to work hard to make sure I really do earn my way and not get it handed to me. I've seen what happens when it does...you are shunned by your peers and cannot pull your weight.
Oh it looks good on HR reports for minority workers but back in the trenches they all know what's going on. No one wants to work with someone who is a "token" and nothing more.
Affirmative Action and minority preferences will be the downfall of this country.
Color, race, gender over skill and experience lands people jobs these days and I believe it's more pronounced in government work or government contract work.
I'm a girl and I've turned down opportunities at my company because I knew my name was put forward to play the "girl" card rather than my name put forward because of my skills.
I'm a programmer (20 years systems programmer) and I'm a girl. In this field that is a minority and I have to work hard to make sure I really do earn my way and not get it handed to me. I've seen what happens when it does...you are shunned by your peers and cannot pull your weight.
Oh it looks good on HR reports for minority workers but back in the trenches they all know what's going on. No one wants to work with someone who is a "token" and nothing more.
I sincerely hope that you were not qualified for the positions that you turned down. I hope that was the reason that you turned them down. Whether or not you are a contributor will be quickly found out by your peers.
I think you should have made it more clear in your post that you were promoted but not qualified and that's why you turned down the promotions. The assumption is there but it was not spelled out.
I sincerely hope that you were not qualified for the positions that you turned down. I hope that was the reason that you turned them down. Whether or not you are a contributor will be quickly found out by your peers.
I think you should have made it more clear in your post that you were promoted but not qualified and that's why you turned down the promotions. The assumption is there but it was not spelled out.
- Reel
I found out by other means..I believe I was qualified but that is not why my name was submitted. Turning it down was the better option. Word gets around and I would rather pass on something and still be "one of the guys" then take it and spend my time justifying that I was qualified. Sometimes it's just not worth it. Being respected by my peers means more to me in the long run over a few measly extra dollars. This happened years ago and I have no regrets with what I did.
They've been doing this for years and by 'minority' they really mean Blacks and Mestizos.
You don't see Asians failing to pass these exams.
After all this time, I think we need to stop pretending all races are equal on the intelligence scale. It's ridiculous and we don't go towards any real solutions with it.
You are correct. But there are blacks at all levels of intelligence. In many ways, highly intelligent blacks are just as harmed by this lack of meritocracy as anyone else.
We really do have to get back to merit in academics, hiring and promotions. For those who hate IQ tests, go ahead and base this on achievement. It would be hard to get away from talking about racial issues when this is found to have a disparate impact on black folks but we should be talking about achievement levels and not black v white.
It's not about race. It's about mental capacity, ability, inclination and initiative resulting in achievement. Those who claim we are all equal and that prejudice and discrimination is the cause of low achievement cannot explain why the majority of blacks are doing just fine in this capitalistic society. They also cannot explain why there are actually more low-achieving whites than there are low-achieving blacks.
There will always be those who cannot even produce what they need to survive in any society. Approximately 10% of whites and 25% of blacks fall into this marginal category and this category includes more whites than blacks. Social programs will be necessary to carry these folks. Putting these folks into a position where they are unlikely to succeed is not doing anyone any favors.
They've been doing this for years and by 'minority' they really mean Blacks and Mestizos.
You don't see Asians failing to pass these exams.
After all this time, I think we need to stop pretending all races are equal on the intelligence scale. It's ridiculous and we don't go towards any real solutions with it.
You are correct. But there are blacks at all levels of intelligence. In many ways, highly intelligent blacks are just as harmed by this lack of meritocracy as anyone else.
We really do have to get back to merit in academics, hiring and promotions. For those who hate IQ tests, go ahead and base this on achievement. It would be hard to get away from talking about racial issues when this is found to have a disparate impact on black folks but we should be talking about achievement levels and not black v white.
It's not about race. It's about mental capacity, ability, inclination and initiative resulting in achievement. Those who claim we are all equal and that prejudice and discrimination is the cause of low achievement cannot explain why the majority of blacks are doing just fine in this capitalistic society. They also cannot explain why there are actually more low-achieving whites than there are low-achieving blacks.
There will always be those who cannot even produce what they need to survive in any society. Approximately 10% of whites and 25% of blacks fall into this marginal category and this category includes more whites than blacks. Social programs will be necessary to carry these folks. Putting these folks into a position where they are unlikely to succeed is not doing anyone any favors.
- Reel
Please don,t intimate.
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