water boarding ?

[padcrasher]

Originally Posted by stevej64

What would you do if you were water boarded?You were then told SORRY mistake wrong guy.Would you put your tail between your legs or GET EVEN?

It all depends who you are.

If you're an American and you are waterboarded by foreigners that's definitely torture and our government should avenge this act.

If you are a foriegner waterboarded by Americans....well we had to do it ( but nobody is admitting to it) , and nobody is going to pay for breaking the law.

Love us World! We are the USA! A bright shining example for the World to follow!

[padcrasher]

Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC

First of all, lets get down to the foundation of this topic. Where exactly are all these "innocent Muslim's" in jail? Gitmo is down to roughly 200 people, and those have been declared the most dangerous of all. I'm a little confused as to where you're coming up with all these "innocent Muslim's in jail."

It does sound like you're talking about Gitmo. Gitmo had roughly 1,000 insurgents at its peak I believe (correct me if i'm wrong). But like I said, in order to get a free ride to Gitmo, a person had to be at least somewhat involved in the fight against the United States. Were there completely innnocent people there? Probably. But in a sea of many thousand insurgents, this basically comes down to the "war is hell" concept. War is never perfect, but to assume that most of the Muslim detainees were innocent is unfounded in my opinion. Not being able to secure a conviction and being totally innnocent are very different things.

It's hopeless to even keep up with your misinformation.

Most of the Gitmo prisoners have never been charged and most they don't even have enough evidence to ever charge them.....lol

You are serioulsly confused.

[AeroGuyDC]

Originally Posted by padcrasher

It's hopeless to even keep up with your misinformation.

Most of the Gitmo prisoners have never been charged and most they don't even have enough evidence to ever charge them.....lol

You are serioulsly confused.

Did you read what I said? Securing a conviction and being totally innocent are two entirely different things. Just because the government opts not to try someone because they aren't sure they can secure a conviction does not mean the person is entirely innocent. Do you disagree? Associating with terrorists and pulling the trigger are very different things. One can easily get you a trial, the other is mired in legal interpretation. I'm not sure why you dispute that.

[stevej64]

DC
.What you are saying is they all look the same send who you catch to gitmo and waterboard them.

[monkeywrenching]

take what AQ is doing to their prisoners and then compare it to what the USA is doing to theirs and see which one is worse.

while you are at it, ask Daniel Pearl how he felt about AQ torture methods.