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Old 01-12-2010, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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I like the idea. well done on this one. State and federal working together
I like it too. Opening lines of communication is a good thing.
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Old 01-12-2010, 03:31 PM
 
Location: OB
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Default more expansion by the feds

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State and federal working together
The state and feds already work together, the House and Senate.

The governors of the states should remain seperate from the federal gov't, and independently beholden to their citizen's best interest and not the collective interests of all the states together with guidance from the president/federal govt.

It seems like another layer of unneeded bureaucracy, one which waters down the independence of the state.
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Old 01-12-2010, 05:40 PM
 
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How about unconstitutional, here 10 governors get more say than the other 40 states and also the president appoints who is on the panel.
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Old 01-12-2010, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Yes, I can see where this might be a bad thing. Better to just let the federal government dictate to the states without any input from them at all, right?

After all, who cares about such old, archaic, out-dated notions like states rights and the limits of federal power? The central government knows best.
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Old 01-12-2010, 06:05 PM
 
Location: OB
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Yes, I can see where this might be a bad thing. Better to just let the federal government dictate to the states without any input from them at all, right?

After all, who cares about such old, archaic, out-dated notions like states rights and the limits of federal power? The central government knows best.
We need less gov't, NOT MORE. Up is down. We elect Congress to represent our state at the federal level. The federal gov't should not be dictating to the states and if they are, you/we need to unelect the fools.

Creating another agency, over seen by the federal gov't, because the federal gov't is over-governing, makes absolutely no freaking sense.

We need to take power back from the feds and give it back to the states.

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Old 01-12-2010, 06:12 PM
 
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I like the idea. well done on this one. State and federal working together
I love the idea, but I hate the structure.
10 Governors of the presidential choosing.

We all know the president, regardless of what political party they belong to, will choose those that only support their ideas/programs, and they will be figureheads for "the presidential plans".
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Old 01-12-2010, 06:14 PM
 
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How about unconstitutional, here 10 governors get more say than the other 40 states and also the president appoints who is on the panel.
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We need less gov't, NOT MORE. Up is down. We elect Congress to represent our state at the federal level. The federal gov't should not be dictating to the states and if they are, you need to unelect the fools.

Creating another agency, over seen by the federal gov't, because the federal gov't is over-governing, makes absolutely no freaking sense. We need to take power back from the feds and give it back to the states.
Both valid points..
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Old 01-12-2010, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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So I'm reading through the OP and thinking to myself, "Excellent! I love that the President is utilizing the input of the States regarding national security, especially since they govern their own National Guard units. There's no way the Republicans can spin this as a negative, since it shows he's taking national security very, very seriously and coordinating all the necessary players to improve communication and coordination."

Then I got to the last sentence, written by the OP.



I should've known better.
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Old 01-12-2010, 06:32 PM
 
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So I'm reading through the OP and thinking to myself, "Excellent! I love that the President is utilizing the input of the States regarding national security, especially since they govern their own National Guard units. There's no way the Republicans can spin this as a negative, since it shows he's taking national security very, very seriously and coordinating all the necessary players to improve communication and coordination."

Then I got to the last sentence, written by the OP.



I should've known better.

All guns will be trained on Republicans and Christians.
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Old 01-12-2010, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Fayetteville, NC
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Why only 10 states? More scary federal control. 10 Governors in the hip pocket to rubber stamp whatever they want impose on us.
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