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Old 02-15-2010, 12:18 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Mike from back east View Post
I don't think it's about personal freedom or self-entitlement issues. I think it's all about ignorance, racism, and misplaced pride.

There are so many kids in the south and Appalachia with teeth rotted by drinking Mountain Dew that it was a scandal noted in the press. There is nothing quite like kids crying with toothaches that spells personal freedom.

It's not about socialism or communism, those are simply the new N words being used by vicious politicians and vested interests to poison the well for our new president and maintain their fat profits under the status quo.

It's about the quality of life for all Americans and providing basic dignity for one and all, not just those who can afford it or those will generous employers.
With most of the racists being in the Democrat Party, I miss how you can support this claim that poor Conservatives are racist and vote against their own good.

Has the thought ever occurred that perhaps they don't want to exchange their freedoms for charity?

How about the lack of proof that any of these programs proposed would directly benefit them?

Your remarks about racism are improper without sufficient support.
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Old 02-15-2010, 12:26 AM
 
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One is republican under one of two circumstances - stupid or just plain selfish/greedy (with a touch of stupid). This isn't to say one can't be stupid and selfish at the same time, but the stupid for some reason view themselves as a member or potential member of the 1% club (those who benefit from republican tactics) when they will never be. The selfish/greedy are the 1% or very well off (who don't realize they are not in the 1%).
You feel half of America is stupid or greedy based on no other person of note than one 74 year old man?

That's interesting AND telling at the same time.

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Old 02-15-2010, 12:34 AM
 
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What is the specific issue you would like to ask about? There are various reasons depending on the issue at hand. Pick one.
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Old 02-15-2010, 01:03 AM
 
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[quote=aliveandwellinSA;12782052]
If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.

If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.
If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.

If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.

If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him..

If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down.

If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced.
(Unless it's a foreign religion, of course!)

If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for
it, or may choose a job that provides it.
A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.
[/quote

An oldie-but-goodie, because it's sooooo true.
Liberal response? Crickets?
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Old 02-15-2010, 01:30 AM
 
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With most of the racists being in the Democrat Party, I miss how you can support this claim that poor Conservatives are racist and vote against their own good.
Has the thought ever occurred that perhaps they don't want to exchange their freedoms for charity?
How about the lack of proof that any of these programs proposed would directly benefit them?
Your remarks about racism are improper without sufficient support.
What did you think of the OP's linked article?
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Old 02-15-2010, 01:33 AM
 
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Originally Posted by aliveandwellinSA View Post

If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.

If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.
If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.

If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.

If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him..

If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down.

If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced.
(Unless it's a foreign religion, of course!)

If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for
it, or may choose a job that provides it.
A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.
An oldie-but-goodie, because it's sooooo true.
Liberal response? Crickets?
Asinine?
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Old 02-15-2010, 01:42 AM
 
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What did you think of the OP's linked article?
Very light reading with its main highlight being voter psychology.

It does not prove racism, stupidity of a party, nor does it prove that the legislation people are fighting against may not be effective.

It isn't supportive data to allow for this broad sweeping personal attack that is occurring here in this thread.
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Old 02-15-2010, 01:44 AM
 
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Very light reading with its main highlight being voter psychology.
It does not prove racism, stupidity of a party, nor does it prove that the legislation people are fighting against may not be effective.
It isn't supportive data to allow for this broad sweeping personal attack that is occurring here in this thread.


Why do you think poor conservatives vote against social policies that would benefit them?
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Old 02-15-2010, 01:48 AM
 
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Why do you think poor conservatives vote against social policies that would benefit them?
I don't believe they don't vote for policies that would benefit them.

I believe most people vote for what they do believe in or think they believe in.

It's condescending to take the position as the know all of what others feel.

Not everyone believes big government is healthy and many, like me, know their history and studied philosophy relative to social theory and human nature.

Views are complex and I believe they should remain that way to maintain our Country's variety and quality of ideas and innovation.

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Old 02-15-2010, 03:54 AM
 
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Perhaps we should give credit to those who can recognize that determining right versus wrong is not necessarily related to a personal gain.
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