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Old 02-05-2010, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Would it be morally justified to save the lives of the many, by the sacrifice of the few? If you think 10% is too large of a number, what if it was only 5%? or 1%? or .1%?

At what point would seemingly immoral behavior be justified for the greater good?
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Old 02-05-2010, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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You mean forced sterilization of people with a genetic propensity for cancer?

That's a slippery slope.
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Old 02-05-2010, 02:40 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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Would it be morally justified to save the lives of the many, by the sacrifice of the few? If you think 10% is too large of a number, what if it was only 5%? or 1%? or .1%?

At what point would seemingly immoral behavior be justified for the greater good?
If cancer was as contagious as a cold maybe.

If we could prevent the spread of HIV by euthanizing all HIV positive people would that be worth it as well... for the greater good?
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Old 02-05-2010, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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If cancer was as contagious as a cold maybe.

If we could prevent the spread of HIV by euthanizing all HIV positive people would that be worth it as well... for the greater good?
Cancer can be very genetic. Certain races/populations are much more likely to have certain kinds of cancers. There are some people who have cancer "genes" that run in their family.

There is a difference between killing people off, and preventing them from having children. There are millions of Americans that will never have a child, nor do they want to have a child.


AIDS is contagious, cancer is not. We can prevent and eradicate AIDS through sex education, we can't prevent cancer. But, we could greatly limit the incidence rate of cancer by preventing certain "cancer carrying" genes from spreading in the general population.

But lets say hypothetically that we could cure ALL CANCER by preventing a certain percentage of the population from having offspring. Would it be worth it? Or are we better off suffering with cancer because we don't want to hurt anyones feelings?
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Old 02-05-2010, 02:53 PM
 
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Would it be morally justified to save the lives of the many, by the sacrifice of the few? If you think 10% is too large of a number, what if it was only 5%? or 1%? or .1%?

At what point would seemingly immoral behavior be justified for the greater good?
"Say there's a group of five people standing on a train track, and you're on a train coming toward them. You can save the whole group by pulling a lever and switching to another track, but the catch is that you'll kill another person who's standing on that other track. Do you pull the lever?

"According to Harvard scientist Mark Hauser, who posed this question to hundreds of thousands of people on the Internet, nine out of 10 people say yes, they would pull the lever. But then, the questions get harder—and the answers much more confusing. It turns out that different parts of our brains make different moral decisions."

This American Life - 336: Who Can You Save?
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Old 02-05-2010, 02:59 PM
 
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(This is that "moral sense" set of questions mentioned above: Moral Sense Test)
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Old 02-05-2010, 03:03 PM
 
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Would it be morally justified to save the lives of the many, by the sacrifice of the few? If you think 10% is too large of a number, what if it was only 5%? or 1%? or .1%?

At what point would seemingly immoral behavior be justified for the greater good?
Who is being sacrificed? From the question, it doesn't appear that anyone is choosing between on life and many or any for that matter, simply the prevention of some from having children. No one's life is in jeopardy, simply their desire, as noble as that may be, to have children. Frankly, many genetically high risk people are already making the choice not to have children.

Would it be moral? What is more moral, to have children when they have a high probability of suffering from a genetic disease or defect (we are not talking about abortion) or to refrain from conceiving them in the first place?
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Old 02-05-2010, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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I have a genetic disorder and I have made the conscious decision not to have biological children. I do not want to pass on my genetics to another person. I think if more people CHOSE not to have biological children because of a genetic issue, that would be fine. Forcing? No.
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Old 02-05-2010, 04:20 PM
 
Location: California
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I guess it would depend on who was being stopped from having kids. If I got to help choose who wouldn't breed I would be all for it!
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Old 02-05-2010, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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In this case genetic selection is immoral. Not all children of cancer sufferers get cancer. This is an uncertainty that discredits sterilization.

Also, children of cancer free parents do get cancer. If the OP is suggesting that the goal of sterilization is to eliminate unneeded suffering, well, that is impossible in every possible way.
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