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Old 02-09-2010, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma City
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49% of Americans still favor a public option for health care reform, with 42% who oppose. So when Republicans claim that most Americans do not like to current legislation how does that fact figure into the equation? Could it be much of the dislike with the current legislation is because it offers no public option?

Creation of a public entity to directly compete with existing health insurance companies

FavorOpposeUnsure Creation of a public entity to directly compete with existing health insurance companies."

1/28-31/10 Favor:49% Oppose 42% Unsure 9%

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Ipsos/McClatchy Poll conducted by Ipsos Public Affairs. Jan. 28-31, 2010. N=1,127 adults nationwide. MoE ± 2.9

"The plan could include a government insurance option only for people who can't get private insurance, the so-called public option. Or instead it could have the government negotiate with private insurers to have them offer these people insurance that meets government specifications. Which of these two approaches would you prefer: the public option or the alternative'

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OptionAlternativeBoth (vol.)Neither

1/12-15/10

Public option: 47%, Alternative 41%, Neither 8%

ABC News/Washington Post Poll. Jan. 12-15, 2010. N=1,083 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.5

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Old 02-09-2010, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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Most americans still favor a public option
49% is less than half.
Right now "public option" is an abstract idea.
I'll bet when explained fully and properly (of course remembering to show the people how medicare already loses 60 billion through fraud/waste in a year) and that less than half number will drop even further.

You can't referee and play the game at the same time.
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Old 02-09-2010, 09:27 AM
 
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You have to do something about your "fonts" showing

Its more like 3/4 of folks want a public option - the
opposing already have a public option - its called Medicare.

The folks from Brown's state of Massachusetts already have a type of universal health care plan (of which Brown voted for). When campaigning Brown said this:
"We have insurance here in Massachusetts. I'm not going to be subsidizing what other states have failed to do."

The folks of Massachusetts -70 percent, like their present health care plan, including those that voted for Brown. What some are afraid of is a new national program might cost them more for health security they already have.
82 percent of all Obama supporters that voted for Brown support a public health option.

Republicans are spinning "No one likes the Health Care Bill". But it isn't because they want Insurance purchase power across state lines, or tort reform(which is really a state issue anyways), but because THEY WANT A PUBLIC OPTION.
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Old 02-09-2010, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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I haven't researched the polls to look at how the questions were worded, but it could be just that people in theory like the idea of having a public option without taking into consideration the cost factor of a public option. It's like if I asked you (yes I am oversimplifying), would you like the government to pay all of your medical costs? Of course the answer would be yes, but then if I posed the question of would you favor the government paying 100% of everyone's medical costs if that meant that your taxes will go up and other programs would be cut. Then I think support for such an idea would decrease.

Like I said, I don't know how the polls were conducted so my point may be moot, but I'm just throwing that out there. I do believe that some of the people who dislike the current bills in congress dislike them because there is no public option.
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Old 02-09-2010, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma City
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49% is more than 42%...a child in grade school could tell you that much. My point is that maybe much of the dislike with the current legislation is because it does not include a public option thanks to Republicans and some conservative Democrats.

quote=allydriver;12822948]49% is less than half.
Right now "public option" is an abstract idea.
I'll bet when explained fully and properly (of course remembering to show the people how medicare already loses 60 billion through fraud/waste in a year) and that less than half number will drop even further.

You can't referee and play the game at the same time.[/quote]
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Old 02-09-2010, 09:29 AM
 
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49% is less than half.
Right now "public option" is an abstract idea.
I'll bet when explained fully and properly (of course remembering to show the people how medicare already loses 60 billion through fraud/waste in a year) and that less than half number will drop even further.

You can't referee and play the game at the same time.
The fraud that exists in Medicare is called Medicare Advantage (Medicare Part C) which Republicans overwhelmingly support. What is an abstract idea
is that Republicans even want health care reform
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Old 02-09-2010, 09:29 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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My dad has no health insurance and also opposes any sort of government-controlled health insurance.

Now THAT is an example of standing by principles!
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Old 02-09-2010, 09:31 AM
 
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My dad has no health insurance and also opposes any sort of government-controlled health insurance.

Now THAT is an example of standing by principles!
I'm in the same situation as your dad. I want almost NOTHING from the federal govt..
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Old 02-09-2010, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma City
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Part C is privately run insurance like HMO's and PPO's. Rush Limbaugh said he thought there was nothing wrong with the current health care system. That too flies in the face of what most Americans say about our current system.

quote=pollyrobin;12823083]The fraud that exists in Medicare is called Medicare Advantage (Medicare Part C) which Republicans overwhelmingly support. What is an abstract idea
is that Republicans even want health care reform[/quote]
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Old 02-09-2010, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma City
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You and your dad had better hope he is never seriously sick or injured. Most of the people who file for bankruptcy do so over health related costs and issues.


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My dad has no health insurance and also opposes any sort of government-controlled health insurance.

Now THAT is an example of standing by principles!
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