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Judges who refuse to protect people from stalkers should be disbarred.
What in the ---- was wrong with that judge, it was not like she did not have proof, of what was happening, some judges boy, need to go. I partly blame him for this.
Orders of protection are worth the paper they are written upon. This guy was bent on killing this gal. Unless she saw him coming and had been armed and ready/willing/able to defend herself from his lethal use of force herself, nothing would have changed this outcome.
Should the judge have issued the order of protection? Absolutely.
Would that have stopped the murderer? Unlikely.
Orders of protection are worth the paper they are written upon. This guy was bent on killing this gal. Unless she saw him coming and had been armed and ready/willing/able to defend herself from his lethal use of force herself, nothing would have changed this outcome.
Should the judge have issued the order of protection? Absolutely.
Would that have stopped the murderer? Unlikely.
Right in one respect, wrong in another. Orders of protection are worthless, that's why I think stalkers should be put behind bars. It's individual terrorism, plain and simple.
However, her being armed wouldn't have saved her life, either. How was she to know he was going to pull a gun that time? And even if she saw him pull one on her, the odds that she'd be able to dig around in her purse, find her gun, pull it out and shoot him before he shot her are zero to nil. And if she merely shot him upon sight, then she'd be the guilty one and find herself behind bars.
Stalking = Terrorism = Prison
That's the only solution that will keep the predator away from their prey.
Right in one respect, wrong in another. Orders of protection are worthless, that's why I think stalkers should be put behind bars. It's individual terrorism, plain and simple.
However, her being armed wouldn't have saved her life, either. How was she to know he was going to pull a gun that time? And even if she saw him pull one on her, the odds that she'd be able to dig around in her purse, find her gun, pull it out and shoot him before he shot her are zero to nil. And if she merely shot him upon sight, then she'd be the guilty one and find herself behind bars.
Stalking = Terrorism = Prison
That's the only solution that will keep the predator away from their prey.
Our legal system does not allow people to be "locked up" before they are proven guilty of a crime. This judge couldn't even find the evidence to consider him a credible threat for an emergency order of protection. So you would expect him to have been "locked up" as a stalker how?
People, once they know they are prey, can choose to be a victim, or they can choose to protect themselves. Never trust your life to our legal system or to the police. They are only there to enforce laws after they are broken and have no obligation to "protect and serve".
Being armed may have saved her life and it may not have. Truth is we'll never know. So either is a supposition. What we do know is that doing nothing while waiting on legal channels did not save her life.
Most people who CCW, as allowed under Florida law, do not have to "dig around" in their purses to get their firearm. They are trained, prepared, and have it on their person, ready for deployment at a second's notice, especially when they have a "stalker". This woman chose, on some level, not to take advantage of the law that allowed her to protect herself.
I take it from your above post that you know little about CCW, recognizing the presentation of a lethal threat, and defending oneself from a lethal threat. Such might be a useful skillset to obtain, if you are legally able.
Right in one respect, wrong in another. Orders of protection are worthless, that's why I think stalkers should be put behind bars. It's individual terrorism, plain and simple.
However, her being armed wouldn't have saved her life, either. How was she to know he was going to pull a gun that time? And even if she saw him pull one on her, the odds that she'd be able to dig around in her purse, find her gun, pull it out and shoot him before he shot her are zero to nil. And if she merely shot him upon sight, then she'd be the guilty one and find herself behind bars.
Stalking = Terrorism = Prison
That's the only solution that will keep the predator away from their prey.
How about a private sector counter-stalker - a not so friendly, Private Investigator?
I guess you'd have to be able to afford it, though.
Our legal system does not allow people to be "locked up" before they are proven guilty of a crime. This judge couldn't even find the evidence to consider him a credible threat for an emergency order of protection. So you would expect him to have been "locked up" as a stalker how?
The judge was an ass. She had over 70 pages of threatening emails. That's good enough for me.
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Originally Posted by lifelongMOgal
I take it from your above post that you know little about CCW, recognizing the presentation of a lethal threat, and defending oneself from a lethal threat. Such might be a useful skillset to obtain, if you are legally able.
The judge was an ass. She had over 70 pages of threatening emails. That's good enough for me. You know what they say about assuming, right?
I do not support the judges actions.
Just because you may have a photo of yourself on the range does not mean you have the mindset or skills to use your weapon in a position of self-defense. Your previous post would seem to be written by a person who is unprepared if faced by a similar threat as that of the victim. I can only take you for what you write and your writing is that of one who needs much training, especially in mindset. I hope you'll get it.
I can sit on my piano bench and pose for a photo but that doesn't make me a pianist.
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