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Old 02-16-2010, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Man faces contempt charges for taking daughter to church

A Chicago-area woman is moving to have her estranged husband held in criminal contempt after he took their 3-year-old daughter to a Catholic church against a judge's order that the girl not be exposed to any religion other than Judaism.

Man faces contempt charges for taking daughter to church - Chicago Breaking News (http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/02/man-faces-contempt-charges-for-taking-daughter-to-church.html - broken link)



What do you think about this?
Personally I think it was bull**** from the judge to say the girl cannot be exposed to Religion X, and it's fine if she's exposed to Religion Y. Why not both religions or none of them? Sometimes these judges go too far.
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Old 02-16-2010, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Agree. Unless there is a specific marital agreement dealing with the issue, then by proxy the "Government" is endorsing a specific religion by barring the exposure of other religions to the child.
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Old 02-16-2010, 04:16 PM
 
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zingzang thinks it's wise that people follow legal rulings unless or until they can get them changed. zingzang understands that Judaism is more than just a religion and that it passes through the mother.
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Old 02-16-2010, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Houston
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zingzang thinks it's wise that people follow legal rulings unless or until they can get them changed. zingzang understands that Judaism is more than just a religion and that it passes through the mother.
It's a pity we don't have all the judge arguments, but let's say that the judge based his decision on that "Judaism is more than just a religion", and he is actually barring all "religion exposure" from this girl. But don't you think that the father's religion (in this case Catholicism) is part of his culture and prohibiting the girl to have any contact with that part of her biological father's culture/inheritance would be equivalent to prohibiting this girl to attend any rite or service at her mom's synagogue?
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Old 02-16-2010, 04:52 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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He had their daughter baptized without her consent... that's kind of a big deal.
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Old 02-16-2010, 05:51 PM
 
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Wow that is amazing. I guess the man needed a better attorney...
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Old 02-16-2010, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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I don't see anything wrong with it.
If she wants her child only exposed to Judaism, it's her right.

No different than if an Evangelical Christian was upset if their child went to Temple with a Jewish playmate or something.

If it's in the agreement that he not expose her to anything but Judaism, he should have obeyed by the rules.
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Old 02-16-2010, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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......Judaism is more than just a religion and that it passes through the mother.
And, it wouldn't be farfetched for a Jewish woman to marry a non-Jew and have children with the explicit understanding that the children will be Jewish. Perhaps that is the case here and the husband decided that because the marriage was over, that agreement was over. If that's the case, I'd be inclined to rule the way the judge did too. If that's the case.....
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Old 02-16-2010, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Maine
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In this case, the Father, Joseph Reyes, converted to Judaism during the marriage and agreed the children of said marriage would be raised in the Jewish faith. He not only took his daughter to a Catholic church, he had her Baptized and e-mailed pictures of the ceremony to his estranged wife. (taunting?)
Divorce Battle: Joseph Reyes Pleads Not Guilty For Taking Daughter to Church - ABC News
Local man could face jail time for taking daughter to church - WGN
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Old 02-16-2010, 07:12 PM
 
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Each parent should be able to take the child to the church of their choice. It will be a part of each parents life anyway BUT I think in this case they had a written agreement on which religion would be excluded when they got married. I would confirm it but ths story is not that important to me.
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