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Old 02-20-2010, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Seattle Area
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How many conservatives here on C-D agree with the following statements that come from a recent post here on CD?


"Many liberals take the wrong side on major issues important to our safety".

"Many liberals take Irans side and love Chavez".

"Many liberals, (not all) hate America or they sure would not be wanting to do things to destory our language, culture and Constitution."

"Anyone who follows Obamas socialist ideals and backs him up agrees with him and therefore they are trying to devastate this country by forcing socialism on us"


As a liberal I find the above statements very disturbing...
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Old 02-20-2010, 11:22 AM
 
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You mean the universe isn't 6000 years old? Wait a minute...wrong religious dogma...

Many people cling religiously to false beliefs. It's a quirk of human nature. (A weakness, in my opinion.) It doesn't matter that these beliefs can easily be shown to be false; people will still cling to them.

What you quoted in the OP is nonsense, but don't hold your breath waiting for those who made the statements to admit error. To those inflicted with strict good vs. evil mindsets, admitting error is a death knell. Indeed, the reason they cling to their beliefs is so they can "assure" themselves that they are on the side of good. Admitting error would place them on the side of evil, and all people who hold good vs. evil worldviews see themselves on the side of good.
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Old 02-20-2010, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Seattle Area
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You mean the universe isn't 6000 years old? Wait a minute...wrong religious dogma...

Many people cling religiously to false beliefs. It's a quirk of human nature. (A weakness, in my opinion.) It doesn't matter that these beliefs can easily be shown to be false; people will still cling to them.

What you quoted in the OP is nonsense, but don't hold your breath waiting for those who made the statements to admit error. To those inflicted with strict good vs. evil mindsets, admitting error is a death knell. Indeed, the reason they cling to their beliefs is so they can "assure" themselves that they are on the side of good. Admitting error would place them on the side of evil, and all people who hold good vs. evil worldviews see themselves on the side of good.
I'm not holding my breath...
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Old 02-20-2010, 12:16 PM
 
Location: between Ath,GR & Mia,FL...
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Are u a liberal or a socialist..?

Because stimulus ( = public works ) & "public option" are classic socialist measures...
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Old 02-20-2010, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Coastal Georgia
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How would you categorize those who believe in the examples you listed? They aren't Conservatives. They aren't Libertarians.
Libs tend to be anti war.
Libs are apologists for America.
Libs favor illegal immigration, multilingual culture, and a loosey-goosey Constitution which bends according to whim.
Libs support the Obama takeover of the medical system and various other anti free enterprise schemes.

If you are a Liberal and you do not believe in these things, then maybe that's not what you are.
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Old 02-20-2010, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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How many conservatives here on C-D agree with the following statements that come from a recent post here on CD?


"Many liberals take the wrong side on major issues important to our safety".

"Many liberals take Irans side and love Chavez".

"Many liberals, (not all) hate America or they sure would not be wanting to do things to destory our language, culture and Constitution."

"Anyone who follows Obamas socialist ideals and backs him up agrees with him and therefore they are trying to devastate this country by forcing socialism on us"


As a liberal I find the above statements very disturbing...
I can understand how you feel..I do think some of the statements are true or somewhat so, but certainly not all of them.

You find them disturbing, how do you think Republicans find statements made all the time on these boards like:

all conservatives are religious nut cases

Republicans are from the lower class and not only dumb but uneducated

Republicans are all war mongers

Rebublicans don't care about the poor.

Should I continue? Grouping everyone together is wrong and stupid.

Nita
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Old 02-20-2010, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Columbus
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Originally Posted by seattlerain View Post
How many conservatives here on C-D agree with the following statements that come from a recent post here on CD?


"Many liberals take the wrong side on major issues important to our safety".

"Many liberals take Irans side and love Chavez".

"Many liberals, (not all) hate America or they sure would not be wanting to do things to destory our language, culture and Constitution."

"Anyone who follows Obamas socialist ideals and backs him up agrees with him and therefore they are trying to devastate this country by forcing socialism on us"


As a liberal I find the above statements very disturbing...
I'd say these are true of almost all liberals except about taking Iran's side. I don't think they are true of democrats. Just liberals and progressives.
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Old 02-20-2010, 01:53 PM
 
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You probly need to define your use of the term liberal. I'm a small government fiscal conservative but socially a hard line liberal. I would say that those of the first three attributes do tend to be liberals.

I would also tend to agree with the fourth statement...

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"Anyone who follows Obamas socialist ideals and backs him up agrees with him and therefore they are trying to devastate this country by forcing socialism on us"
...though I'm not sure that everyone who endorses the Obama agenda has a full comprehension of the ultimate consequences. They are frequently referred to as rubes.
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Old 02-20-2010, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Columbus
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You probly need to define your use of the term liberal. I'm a small government fiscal conservative but socially a hard line liberal. I would say that those of the first three attributes do tend to be liberals.

I would also tend to agree with the fourth statement...



...though I'm not sure that everyone who endorses the Obama agenda has a full comprehension of the ultimate consequences. They are frequently referred to as rubes.
how can you be fiscaly conservative and socially liberal?

It costs a lot of money to force people to live the exact way you want them to.

And when I say liberals take policies that hurt safety I'm not talking about national defense. I'm talking about threatening Americans saftey form our government.

Democrats believe in following the Constitution for the most part and the free market.

Progressives and liberals want all power in DC.
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Old 02-20-2010, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Columbus
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How would you categorize those who believe in the examples you listed? They aren't Conservatives. They aren't Libertarians.
Libs tend to be anti war.
Libs are apologists for America.
Libs favor illegal immigration, multilingual culture, and a loosey-goosey Constitution which bends according to whim.
Libs support the Obama takeover of the medical system and various other anti free enterprise schemes.

If you are a Liberal and you do not believe in these things, then maybe that's not what you are.
Who said libs are anti war?

It was libs that got us in WW1, WW2, Vietnam and Bosnia/Kosovo. They just got all anti-war when a Republican followed their lead and went into Iraq.

We have been in many, many more wars when libs are in power than when they are out.
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