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Old 03-03-2010, 06:48 AM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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LOL, in Bush's 1st year in office, the only month that did not see job loss was February. Bush had the worst job record of any President since the stats started being kept in 1939. Presidents who only served 1 term had more job creation than Bush in two, Presidents that did not even serve a full term had more jobs created under their watch than Bush had in two full terms. Bush's last 12 months in office, had the largest job loss any President ever had during any 12 month period.

Bush had 52 consecutive months of job growth.

Obama cannot get a month under his belt.

Bush last 12 months in office were a result of Nancy and Harrys saying NO to all his ideas.

When Obama STOPS losing jobs at a record pace, come back and let us know. Something tells me you wont be back any time soon.

Obamas first year record of foreclosures, bankruptcies and car repo's is what you need to focus on. All of these were suppose to be avoided if we let him have his fake stimulus money. Guess that was money wasted away.

No matter what you think of Bush, if you were going to succeed at all, Bush gave you the chance, if you failed it is your fault.

Many succeeded under Bush, only those who wanted a handout or did not work hard failed under him.

Face reality, you will never grow under Obama, it is not in his agenda to allow you to grow. If you do, he will find a way to take it away from you.
He wants all the sheep to be under his control.
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Old 03-03-2010, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Central Maine
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There's so much here that is so obviously wrong ... but I only have time for one.

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Bush had 52 consecutive months of job growth.
And that would really mean something if Bush had served as President for 4 years and 4 months. But no, he was (unfortunately) in there for two full terms. Gotta look at it all.
"President George W. Bush will leave office Tuesday with the worst employment-growth record of any president since World War II, according to a new analysis by Bizjournals. The nation’s job base grew at an annual rate of 0.28 percent during Bush’s eight years as president – by far the slowest pace for any of the 11 presidents in the postwar era ..." Source
But to get back to the original question, no, thankfully, we could not elect Dubya President again.

The 22nd Amendment to the Constitution: No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

We all believe in the Constitution, right?
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Old 03-03-2010, 07:18 AM
 
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Bush had 52 consecutive months of job growth.

Obama cannot get a month under his belt.

Bush last 12 months in office were a result of Nancy and Harrys saying NO to all his ideas.

When Obama STOPS losing jobs at a record pace, come back and let us know. Something tells me you wont be back any time soon.

Obamas first year record of foreclosures, bankruptcies and car repo's is what you need to focus on. All of these were suppose to be avoided if we let him have his fake stimulus money. Guess that was money wasted away.

No matter what you think of Bush, if you were going to succeed at all, Bush gave you the chance, if you failed it is your fault.

Many succeeded under Bush, only those who wanted a handout or did not work hard failed under him.

Face reality, you will never grow under Obama, it is not in his agenda to allow you to grow. If you do, he will find a way to take it away from you.
He wants all the sheep to be under his control.
Here's the thing. Clinton and Bush both presided over industry bubbles that really helped the nation's coffers.

One raised taxes on some, controlled spending, and built a budget surplus.

One lowered taxes for all and spent like a drunken sailor and doubled our national debt during a time where we SHOULD have been in a position to actually lower it.

More to your point though. You cannot possibly compare the economic climate that Bush was given to the one Obama was given.
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Old 03-03-2010, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Southeast
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Because of the massive deficit prior to him taking office. The deficits weren't going to go away right off the spot. In 1993 Clinton and the Democrats in Congress came up with a five year budget plan and outline in the 1993 Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act. They new with the size of the deficit they were facing, balancing the budget wasn't something they could do right away. As a result they set up a budget plan and outline which would reduce the yearly deficit each year and result in a surplus at the end of the five years. That is exactly what happened.
Not exactly. OBRA93 did not do as much as you seem to think, it was coming up short and would not meet its goals in 5 years. What pushed the budget to balance was the Deficit Reduction Act of 1997 and the Surface Transportation Revenue Act of 1998. The former included spending cuts and the latter created a drastic spike in fuel taxes.
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Old 03-03-2010, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Originally Posted by Sunny-Days90 View Post
Bush had 52 consecutive months of job growth.

Obama cannot get a month under his belt.

Bush last 12 months in office were a result of Nancy and Harrys saying NO to all his ideas.

When Obama STOPS losing jobs at a record pace, come back and let us know. Something tells me you wont be back any time soon.

Obamas first year record of foreclosures, bankruptcies and car repo's is what you need to focus on. All of these were suppose to be avoided if we let him have his fake stimulus money. Guess that was money wasted away.

No matter what you think of Bush, if you were going to succeed at all, Bush gave you the chance, if you failed it is your fault.

Many succeeded under Bush, only those who wanted a handout or did not work hard failed under him.

Face reality, you will never grow under Obama, it is not in his agenda to allow you to grow. If you do, he will find a way to take it away from you.
He wants all the sheep to be under his control.
Bush got EVERYTHING he wanted, the Dems majority in the Senate was far to small to pass anything they really wanted to. Filibuster + Veto. It was Bush who lost jobs at record pace. As far as the foreclosures, bankruptcies, and car repo's, you do realize that those things do not happen right away correct? You do realize that the VAST majority of those who went through foreclosures, bankruptcies, etc last year were those who were in DEEP financial trouble before Obama even took office. The economy was only good for the richest of the rich under Bush. Median incomes actually declined when compared to inflation.
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Old 03-03-2010, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Bush indeed took over a recession in the making, and while it was no where similar to Obamas, it was in fact a recession..

Just a few short months after Bush took office, Pelosi herself asked "Mr President, where are the jobs"... which is why the tax cuts were passed, which created jobs until Democrats took over 1/07... See what happened 1/07?
The Dems didn't have much power to do anything, filibuster + veto. Bush got ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING he wanted. Not to mention even prior to the downturn Bush had the worst jobs record since the stats were compiled in the late 30's, the downturn just made it that much worse.
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Old 03-03-2010, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Southeast
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The Dems didn't have much power to do anything, filibuster + veto. Bush got ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING he wanted. Not to mention even prior to the downturn Bush had the worst jobs record since the stats were compiled in the late 30's, the downturn just made it that much worse.
Not sure what data you are looking at, although I would like to see it so I can plot it on a chart. In any case, here is the net job gains/losses from 1939-2010:

http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet

You can clearly see that since the Reagan era, periods of growth have been longer and recessions further apart (and holy hell.. +1.1 million jobs in one month in 1983??). In any case, Bush's track record is better than those pre-1980, although still below average even factoring out the most recent recession and subsequent job losses.

EDIT: Link isn't working, so visit this page: http://www.bls.gov/ and hit "historic data" under payroll employment in the right hand sidebar..

Last edited by Frankie117; 03-03-2010 at 02:51 PM..
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Old 03-03-2010, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Austin
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I think we need President Bush back to get our country out of this quadmire...afterall, he got the country's economy going strong in about the first 6 months of his Presidency...

We had a good attitude about things and everybody was working.

Obama doesn't get the message...25 million people are out of work and need jobs to feed their families...
LOL.. Obvious troll post but good try!
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Old 03-03-2010, 01:37 PM
 
Location: PA
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Thank god for the constitution if we could just get the idiots in Washington to follow it we might not be in this mess.
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Old 03-03-2010, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Not sure what data you are looking at, although I would like to see it so I can plot it on a chart. In any case, here is the net job gains/losses from 1939-2010:

Notice: Data not available: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

You can clearly see that since the Reagan era, periods of growth have been longer and recessions further apart (and holy hell.. +1.1 million jobs in one month in 1983??). In any case, Bush's track record is better than those pre-1980, although still below average even factoring in the most recent recession and subsequent job losses.

EDIT: Link isn't working, so visit this page: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics and hit "historic data" under payroll employment in the right hand sidebar..
That is the site I used. Do the math, add up every month for Bush's term, and every month for every other President, look at who comes up with the worst record. Its Bush, BY FAR, and its not even close.
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