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Old 03-09-2010, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Nashville
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Libertarianism Makes You Stupid
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Old 03-09-2010, 08:37 AM
 
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BTW:

If you want a fairly decent historical overview on the real orgins of libertarianism then look here,

YouTube - TheLeftLibertarian's Channel
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Old 03-09-2010, 08:44 AM
 
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lol, an essay whining about a political party the writer does not like.

what else is new?
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Old 03-09-2010, 08:47 AM
 
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lol, an essay whining about a political party the writer does not like.

what else is new?
Sounds like this forum as a whole?
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Old 03-09-2010, 09:43 AM
 
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Seth, you have not answered the question. Do you agree, or do you disagree, that it is always wrong for one person to initiate force against another? If you disagree, then you disagree with the fundamental concept of libertarianism, ...

On the other hand, if you agree with the proposition, yet you still don't like the conclusions that libertarians draw from it, then we can refocus our attention on the chain of logic that leads to those conclusions and find where you feel the weak link is.
From your link.

I've had the exact same argument on this forum.
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Old 03-09-2010, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Nashville
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Ovcatto,

I'm still waiting for Libertarians to fulfill Ayn Rand's prophecy of creating a Galtian Society. My guess is that they won't and instead they return to montoring Amazon Review, Youtube and message boards like this one.
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Old 03-09-2010, 09:54 AM
 
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Funny Opinion Essay On a Cult Were All Too Familiar With
Disappointing. I was expecting a shellacking of Scientology.
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Old 03-09-2010, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Metairie, La.
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Libertarianism is a morally bankrupt philosophy. As an undergrad I took a political philosophy course. The professor was a libertarian, but a darn good philosophy prof. He dichotomized the reading for the course based around Rawls vs. Nozick.

At the time, I was sympathetic to Libertarianism, believing that "live and let live" would be a good general moral precept if applied equitably and consistently.

While Rawls is boring reading material, Nozick seemed as if he disregarded historical examples of the inherent problems in the nightwatchman state, thus rendering him a little out of touch with reality.

I view Libertarians today as the "do-nothing" party. Their typical responses for social/economic problems is to do nothing and let the system work itself out, regardless of any social evils that come about as "unintended" consequences.

The way the prof structured the class gave me a good view of two different sides of the debate, and I changed my mind in the course of the class from sympathy with this morally bankrupt philosophy to completing opposing it. It just doesn't work. My old prof would probably say that's what Libertarianism is supposed to do...nothing.

The Rawls side promotes social justice, which too has its inherent flaws. But at least social justice theorists are attempting to arrive at solutions rather than letting the system work itself out.
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Old 03-09-2010, 01:42 PM
 
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Sounds like this forum as a whole?
exactly.

I am a libertarian and this isn't even worth responding to.

Every political party is viewed as illogical by a different party. If we all agreed we would not have a multi-party system.
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