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It is reducing costs for millions. Subsidies for those earning 88K or less, will be reducing what they would otherwise be paying. The premiums are loosely tied to costs, which is being addressed, however, not to the extent that they need to be, yet. But even though the premiums will rise, the net cost to millions of people, will be lower. Yes, lowering the cost to millions of people, is part of the intent.
So punish the majority for a few.
The bill was promoted as lowering cost for us all. Not a select few. If you notice on the white house web site it didnt say affordable for a select few.
Just keep punishing those that are responsible and see where it gets you.
The bill was promoted as lowering cost for us all. Not a select few. If you notice on the white house web site it didnt say affordable for a select few.
Just keep punishing those that are responsible and see where it gets you.
Yeah that will be great for our county. So much for our gov works for all people
Not sure when it became the role of the gov to punish hard work and being responsible or successful like that is a bad thing. I mean why not just put it on the gov web site. Cost will only go down for a select few. Lets be honest here.
Better just settle and never improve our lives. Because now if we earn more then 88k we have less
That's it! That's what they want. Peaceful resignation and acceptance by the natives.
Personally, I think 88K is almost $90K, and that's not a salary to sneeze at. Those people should not be subsidized by the rest of Americans. Wonder whether they set it at $88K to make it sound lower. Odd number.
That 88K should be set much lower, and be dependent on how many children in the family. I'm not against helping those who are low-income, but my definition of low-income evidently doesn't match that of the Democrats.
If it is true that "the majority" make less than 88K, then Democrats will have bought the majority of the votes for themselves with our money.
That's it! That's what they want. Peaceful resignation and acceptance by the natives.
Personally, I think 88K is almost $90K, and that's not a salary to sneeze at. Those people should not be subsidized by the rest of Americans. Wonder whether they set it at $88K to make it sound lower. Odd number.
That 88K should be set much lower, and be dependent on how many children in the family. I'm not against helping those who are low-income, but my definition of low-income evidently doesn't match that of the Democrats.
If it is true that "the majority" make less than 88K, then Democrats will have bought the majority of the votes for themselves with our money.
Ding Ding Ding thats the whole point to help keep people dependent on the gov
Ding Ding Ding thats the whole point to help keep people dependent on the gov
Yep. Obama and the Dems want to create a poor middle class. The more they take away from greater numbers of people, the more they will be able to add to that "poorer" class.
It's kind of the reverse of increasing the risk pool in insurance. They're decreasing the voter risk pool. The more people who get handouts (and grow to need them to survive) the fewer who will vote against them.
I hope that, at the very least, Congress does not fund the Medicare cuts in 2011.
Reagun ran up deficits to pay for military expansionism. Bushs' did same. King Bush II cut taxes for the rich, so did Reagun. Results were the same...Massive and Compounding Debt for our future.
Good Republican politics...Sell out our future for a few votes and campaign dollars today. To paraphrase W.C. Fields, ...Never pay today for what you can make some other sucker pay for tomorrow.
Many of the past Democrat Congressmen were Southern Conservatives and voted with and as such. Call them what you want but those southerners were not voting as actual Dems. They knew that they could not be elected or keep office. Regardless, the House members(congressmen) alone do not make the Laws. That takes a majority of them, a majority of the Senate, and the Prez signing. If the Prez don't sign (vetoes), then it takes 2/3 of Congress to override him.
Historically, Democrats tend to be more Non partisan and less obstructive. The Democratic Party has a larger tent. They include lots of different kinds of people and ideas.
Republicans, on the other hand, tend to waddle in Goose step. One is pretty much like the other. Go to just about any college Fraternity and you can probably see one or more of them hanging out smoking dope and drinking booze.... The future leaders of the free (for republicans anyway) world.
The Republicans should at least own up to their own Republican Party politics, policies and results,... failures or not.
They took and did what they wanted and stuck everybody else with their debts. Now, they lie and deny.
Democrats finally understand that this is time to Fight, and fight back real hard working together as strictly partisan voters. And fight we will. No more time for infighting, disinterest, or co-operation with Greed or Fool.
It may be our young voters that will again change things. Get out the word to them. Tell them to spread the word to their friends to get out and vote. Help them to do fact checking, to spread the word, and to VOTE come Midterm elections.
Pore Publiklans, Sympathy here?, ...Hell No.
Actually if you look at the history, Due to the tax cuts and military spending, while a deficit was created, the end result was economic building that resulted entering the beginning clinton years, a tax boon that resulted in a surplus. As Clinton's tax increases took place tax revenues fell and at the end of his presidency, Bush actually inherited an economic downturn, that HIS tax cuts reversed.
Out of this entire poop he made, along with your response....:
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Actually it's untrue
Quote: Originally Posted by oldtimer2 Reagun ran up deficits to pay for military expansionism. Bushs' did same. King Bush II cut taxes for the rich, so did Reagun. Results were the same...Massive and Compounding Debt for our future.
Good Republican politics...Sell out our future for a few votes and campaign dollars today. To paraphrase W.C. Fields, ...Never pay today for what you can make some other sucker pay for tomorrow.
Many of the past Democrat Congressmen were Southern Conservatives and voted with and as such. Call them what you want but those southerners were not voting as actual Dems. They knew that they could not be elected or keep office. Regardless, the House members(congressmen) alone do not make the Laws. That takes a majority of them, a majority of the Senate, and the Prez signing. If the Prez don't sign (vetoes), then it takes 2/3 of Congress to override him.
Historically, Democrats tend to be more Non partisan and less obstructive. The Democratic Party has a larger tent. They include lots of different kinds of people and ideas.
Republicans, on the other hand, tend to waddle in Goose step. One is pretty much like the other. Go to just about any college Fraternity and you can probably see one or more of them hanging out smoking dope and drinking booze.... The future leaders of the free (for republicans anyway) world.
The Republicans should at least own up to their own Republican Party politics, policies and results,... failures or not.
They took and did what they wanted and stuck everybody else with their debts. Now, they lie and deny.
Democrats finally understand that this is time to Fight, and fight back real hard working together as strictly partisan voters. And fight we will. No more time for infighting, disinterest, or co-operation with Greed or Fool.
It may be our young voters that will again change things. Get out the word to them. Tell them to spread the word to their friends to get out and vote. Help them to do fact checking, to spread the word, and to VOTE come Midterm elections.
Pore Publiklans, Sympathy here?, ...Hell No.
Actually if you look at the history, Due to the tax cuts and military spending, while a deficit was created, the end result was economic building that resulted entering the beginning clinton years, a tax boon that resulted in a surplus. As Clinton's tax increases took place tax revenues fell and at the end of his presidency, Bush actually inherited an economic downturn, that HIS tax cuts reversed.
...this one takes the cake:
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Historically, Democrats tend to be more Non partisan and less obstructive.
I almost really did fall out of my chair. demonRATs non-partisan? Y' mean like oldtimer2 was in this post dripping with angry sarcasm, intentional misspelling of Ron's last name, the King Bush reference and so much more wonderfully bi-partisan behavior and controlled, well-mannered comportment! I love to watch a guy cut off his nose just to spite his face.....ROTFLMAO!
Impossible. "less obstructive"...than what? A freight train after its run you over, backing up to crush you again. That obstructively destructive? HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! I mean this is a beaut. A classic for all time. Congrats and a big tip-o'- the-olde-hat to you mister oldtimer2. I have reoccuring visions of some classic demonRATic presidential conventions of the past, not to mention the less obstructive Harry 'I Cant' Reid in shutting out not only Repubs, but almost all of his own party as the final days of pressure bore down upon him with ObaCare. I won't belabor this as I'll be chastized for going off-topic and "hijacking" this thread (though Pops started it), but so many reprehensible examples come to mind.
Oh baby........................!! Thanks for the belly-laugher Pops.
P.S. - Y' know gang ya just don't get funnier stuff than this. This is pass around to your address book quality!
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Actually it's untrue
