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This post sums up liberal ideology in three concise statements.
Personal responsibility means nothing. Life means nothing.
Liberals have no more ammunition in this debate after reading this.
Wow can your stereotyping be any more childish?
I'm so glad you can fit us into a nice big box. Most liberals could do the same to you right about now.
I'll try to offer a couple logical arguments.
Last I checked, an embryo/fetus cannot survive outside a uterus until about 20 weeks into the pregnancy, and even then, low odds. Technically that makes it a parasite.
Women get raped and young girls get molested frequently. When I worked in an E.R. I'd see at least one or two a week, if not more. Women also can be raped and not tell people about it out of fear. At that point an embryo could be implanted.
Women can also be kidnapped and raped. They can be held for a long time. I know these are the exception to the rule, but these women should never be forced to carry a baby they didn't want and didn't have any choice in the matter. Or is this your idea of personal responsibility?
Maybe if pro lifers would think about these situations, instead of their black or white view of the issue, a compromise could be developed, however, like all other conservatives, compromise seems to be a four letter word.
I agree that if a woman has sex of her own free will and gets pregnant, she should at least have the decency to carry it to term. Or she should have gotten her tubes tied, etc. But if she doesn't want the baby and wants to give it up for adoption, where are the pro lifers on this matter, shouldn't they be out volunteering at orphanages, pushing for legislation to make adoption easier and cheaper so families don't have to go to China to adopt? Babies don't just matter when they're inside a uterus and then don't matter when they get out. There is a clear lack of consistancy on this stance.
What about pregnancies with unforeseen complications and premature labor? Should the parents be expected put the baby in a NICU they can't afford in hopes it will survive but they will go bankrupt? Or should they take the baby home because they can't afford care for it and do their best and the baby dies. Why aren't pro lifers up in arms about neonatal care being funded? If babies really mattered to these people, they should be petitioning for neonatology funding to help these babies instead of screwing unlucky parents with a bill. Its a lot easier to just be critical and condemn one thing though vs. offering a good solution.
I'll repeat a previous post now: If the child's right to life and babies the protection of those that cannot protect themselves really mattered we would see the same pro life people, out in force whenever Republicans tried to cut health care for children. Until then they are hypocrites.
Where were you and your friends on the right screaming murder, when Bush sent our troops to Iraq to die????? Your tax money funded that too, you know.
Some of my friends were the ones going to die, we called it doing our duty. The difference is we understood the risk we were taking when we raised our right hand to voluntarily take the oath. What choice was those aborted babies given?
I morn all deaths, but to destroy an innocent before they even have a chance to live is truly horrible.
Congress and the Senate sent troops to Iraq. Bush just agreed with them. It had to go through the house and senate first.
It was not an executive order, or a police action.
You want to turn a blind eye to support your agenda, when you keep saying Bush sent troops into Iraq to die.
How many troops have been lost in Iraq?
How many troops have been lost in Afghanistan?
How many troops were lost in Vietnam?
How many troops were lost in Korea?
How many troops were lost in Germany and Europe?
How many troops were lost in the South Pacific?
Your just now realizing, freedom is not free.
The price of life paid in Iraq & Afghanistan, doesn't even come close to any other war.
You loose less lives driving a well trained offense, than you do playing catchup, defense.
And you want to compare war to an abortion??? Spin it baby, spin it.
Some of my friends were the ones going to die, we called it doing our duty. The difference is we understood the risk we were taking when we raised our right hand to voluntarily take the oath. What choice was those aborted babies given?
I morn all deaths, but to destroy an innocent before they even have a chance to live is truly horrible.
Dude, it's not a baby until it's born.
Duh.
Your emotional approach has nothing to do with reality.
How many unwanted already born kids have you adopted?
None? Didn't think so.
Dude, it's not a baby until it's born.
Duh.
Your emotional approach has nothing to do with reality.
How many unwanted already born kids have you adopted?
None? Didn't think so.
Dude, it's not a baby until it's born
So you favor abortion up to birth.
So a mother at 35 weeks decided to abort you favor that?
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