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Old 03-23-2010, 07:52 PM
 
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Originally Posted by monkeywrenching View Post
problem is, the USA did not get health care reform, the USA got goverment health insurance. 2 different things.

left up to the insurance companies and or the Republicans we woudln"t have reform at all
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Old 03-23-2010, 07:54 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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left up to the insurance companies and or the Republicans we woudln"t have reform at all

left to either party we would not get reform, and democrats just proved it.
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Old 03-23-2010, 07:58 PM
 
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"If the representatives of the people betray their constituents,
there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original
right of self-defense..." Alexander Hamilton.



Guess that says it all.

Maybe for you bad sports. More people are for this than are against it, and this is just early polling.

An Early Verdict: Gallup Respondents Support Health Care's Passage - Politics - The Atlantic

Meanwhile, Gallup reports that Four in 10 Underemployed Currently Lack Health Insurance
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Old 03-23-2010, 08:03 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Maybe for you bad sports. More people are for this than are against it, and this is just early polling.

An Early Verdict: Gallup Respondents Support Health Care's Passage - Politics - The Atlantic

Meanwhile, Gallup reports that Four in 10 Underemployed Currently Lack Health Insurance

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Overall, 48% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President's performance. Fifty-two percent (52%) disapprove.

strange, the poll I'm seeing still saying that obama sucks as a potus.

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports™
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Old 03-23-2010, 08:16 PM
 
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Ok, just so I understand:

If I don't like the Obama HC Bill and how it was enacted, then I must be republican?

If I say anything against the Obama HC Bill then I must be Republican?

And because Republicans always wet their pants when they didn't get their way, this too will pass? Is that right so far?

So the OP's first post was just more sour grapes from the Republicans?

Just asking.
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Old 03-23-2010, 08:19 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The Republicans spend more time complaining about the solutions that others have found and they neglect to find any solutions of their own.

That's whay they lost in 2008 and that's why they will lose again in 2012.

It much easier to criticize the efforts of others vs finding solutions of their own. The Republicans are a bunch of lazy, over-the-hill frat boys who just had their @sses handed to them by our President.




You think government is the solution?

Government is the whole problem, not the solution.
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Old 03-23-2010, 08:20 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The problem with THIS BILL is the rules that the CBO was given on how to score it.
Former CBO director Douglas Holtz-Eakin calls it "fantasy in, fantasy out."

"How can the budget office give a green light to a bill that commits the federal government to spending nearly $1 trillion more over the next 10 years?
The answer, unfortunately, is that the budget office is required to take written legislation at face value and not second-guess the plausibility of what it is handed. So fantasy in, fantasy out.
In reality, if you strip out all the gimmicks and budgetary games and rework the calculus, a wholly different picture emerges: The health care reform legislation would raise, not lower, federal deficits, by $562 billion."
The Real Arithmetic of Health Care Reform - NYTimes.com

1/2 a trillion dollars here, 1/2 a trillion dollars there. Pay up, suckers!
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