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Old 03-25-2010, 11:05 AM
 
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A basic foundational understanding of history seems absent amongst those who call themselves "liberals" and or Democrats, and their attempts to label "Conservatives" and "Republicans" the historical racists. NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH. This is yet another example of the Left trying to re-write history ... whether it is pure deception or utter ignorance, it is totally false. I would remind people that Abraham Lincoln was a Republican, while the secessionist South were the Democratic opposition.

The modern day crop of politicians making up the two parties these days have become so corrupt and unprincipled that neither represent the their original ideals.

In the beginning, those that formed the various parties were deeply "principled", holding to their ideological beliefs. That's not the case today, as these modern pimps have only one concern .. and that is what's in it for them.

Historically, it started with the Federalists, and a one party system. Then along came the Whigs briefly before they were absorbed by a new Democratic-Republican party rising in opposition to the Federalists. Later still, this party split into the Republican party and the Democratic Party. One of the main differences between them were the Republicans (Thomas Jefferson, or "Jeffersonian") Republicans who believed in limited government, States Rights, no central bank, and favored the commoner-farmer to that of the bankers, merchants and monied interests, and the Democrats who favored a stronger Federal government, and closer ties to Britain, as well as a national bank. (The national bank being the single greatest problem we face today).

So historically, it was Republicans (Conservatives) that espoused limited government, strict adherence to the constitution. Then, at the height of tensions between the North and South, the issue of abolishment of slavery was the rallying cry, though in all honesty, it was the control of the wealth of the agricultural South that was the real deal. Lincoln used the issue of slavery to support the federal government's actions to crush the secession of the South, because in that day, prior to the industrial revolution, agriculture was the big business, and the North was ill equipped and unwilling to allow that wealth to escape from the Union. The fact is, the Confederate States were largely a break-off of Democrats ... not Republicans.

20th century Democrats have used the minority platform as a tool for building support in opposition to conservative Republican government, and all of the institutionalized programs were put in place to keep them there .. ever needy of the democratic pandering and hand outs. And, historically, the Democrats have stood for high taxes, high spending and war, while the conservatives have been opposed to all three.

Most recently, the "neocons" or New Conservatives have completely hijacked the party and reversed the ideological foundation of the Republican/conservative platform insofar as limited government, ant-war, and sound fiscal policy is concerned. So they really are just another branch of the tax-spend-war party, posing as opposition. Since the Democrats had hoodwinked minorities into believing that they were their only salvation and had them firmly in grasp, the Republicans aligned themselves with big business, and the monied interests (the opposite of historical basis) ... because that's all that was left. But in reality, we're right back to the beginning ... a one party system (Federalists), posing as "choice".

There is no choice ... this group of scoundrels that comprise this one party system are owned by the Central Bankers ... the very central bank that caused the split up of the Democratic-Republican party so long ago, championed by the Democrat/Federalists.

Those that understand this history, are much more inclined to call themselves "real" conservative-Republicans within the "Jeffersonian" ideological framework. And they know that that the current group calling themselves "conservative Republicans" are total frauds. They are Democratic-Federalists just as their Democratic false opposition is. Both are contributing to the destruction of our nation, at the behest of their owners, the central bank ... AKA the Federal Reserve Bank.

They don't represent the people ... not the liberals, nor the conservatives .. they've just divided the populace along false ideological lines to keep us fighting with each other, while they continue the destruction of our country, and the looting of the peoples wealth and property.
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Old 03-25-2010, 01:45 PM
 
Location: MI
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He should have his DNA checked as he might be the Son of Clarence "the high tech lynching GEECHIE" Thomas.
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Old 03-25-2010, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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By Civil Rights Act do you mean the one Byrd filibustered for fourteen hours strait or the one Thurmond filibustered for 24 hours strait? Last I heard they were both Democrats. If you meant the 1964 act, Senate Republicans voted for cloture (27-6) while Democrats tried to kill it. The support in the House was 61% of Democrats and 80% of Republicans while 63% Democrats in the Senate supported the legislation to 82% of Republicans.

If, as you theorize, they "left the Democratic Party in volumes", they did so to go to the Republican party that just stuck their nose in it.

Surprised you even wanted to go there.

But maybe I don't know what I'm taking about. Could you name some of these Dixicrats who left after the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964?

Well you bring up Thurmond he joined the GOP. Their voters and supporters left the GOP in droves after the Civil Rights Act. It is why Goldwater swept the south in 1964.

BTW well over 90% of northern Democrats voted in favor of the Civil Rights ACt.
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Old 03-25-2010, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Civil Rights Act of 1964 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


By party and region

Note: "Southern", as used in this section, refers to members of Congress from the eleven states that made up the Confederate States of America in the American Civil War. "Northern" refers to members from the other 39 states, regardless of the geographic location of those states.
The original House version:
  • Southern Democrats: 7-87 (7%-93%)
  • Southern Republicans: 0-10 (0%-100%)
  • Northern Democrats: 145-9 (94%-6%)
  • Northern Republicans: 138-24 (85%-15%)
The Senate version:
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Old 03-25-2010, 02:50 PM
 
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going forward, I think these protestors know now to spit on EVERY politician they see, regardless of skin color

which I fully endorse
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Old 03-25-2010, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Pa
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I think Byrd's past is absolutely disgusting. Byrd has denounced his past many times.
Not unlike Kerry denouncing his Military service when it was of benefit to do so, Oh wait then he decided it would benefit him to parade his service awards when it was of benfit to do so. Typical of politicians.
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Old 03-26-2010, 12:37 AM
 
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He should have his DNA checked as he might be the Son of Clarence "the high tech lynching GEECHIE" Thomas.

Now who's being the racist???


What is that suppose to mean??
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Old 03-26-2010, 12:41 AM
 
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Don't bother providing actual historical information and details, people who believe that the current Republican party is the party of MLK or the party of Lincoln simply have no interest in reality.
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Old 03-26-2010, 12:43 AM
 
Location: The Great State of Texas, Finally!
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It was CONSERVATIVES who were in control of the Democratic Party in the south during that time period, and yes they were racist. They also left the Democratic Party in volumes after the passage of the Civil Rights Act, and is the group the GOP targeted in the 60's and 70's. CONSERVATIVES.
Senator Byrd was a KKK member and he's definately not conservative.
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Old 03-26-2010, 12:47 AM
 
Location: Irvine, CA to Keller, TX
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on the topic of the allegations of those black congressman, who said they were spat on and called racial slurs, on the Tea Party movement, on the history of the racist democrat party.

Gateway Pundit
Breitbart.tv » ‘The BIG Black Lie’ Author Debates MSNBC’s Shuster on Tea Party ‘Violence’

Love this quote; "haven't seen any blacks lynched at the Tea Parties, but the democrats have certainly lynched blacks before"

Gateway Pundit (http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/03/media-fraud-more-proof-that-leftist-media-lied-about-racist-attacks-on-black-reps-while-they-ignored-vulgar-attacks-by-lib-politicians/ - broken link)

All the video we have seen says these congressmen were lying, all the pics show their march was widely photographed and videoed, not one shred of evidence that anything they alleged actually happened.
It is a show and the ignorant public is eating it up. I heard a Republican commenting on this issue. He has received many threats over the years. When reported the first respones from the law enforcement responsible for investigating these threats was to tell the Congressman to not publicize these threats. The concern has always been to not encourage these type of whackos thus he was told to keep it quiet until the investigations were complete. This has always been the policy until it was decided to use it for political gain. My how ignorant the general public has become.
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