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Well guess what? The commies weren't exactly voted into power in Russia either. They forced their way in.
The communists who infiltrated our government intended to weaken us, send classified info. to the USSR, and use various means to impose their will.
Well, guess what? The Communists took control in Russia from an absolute monarchy that was toppled by revolution, they didn't force their way into a Democratic Republic.
It wasn't about McCarthy either but about moral superiority over the atheist communists.
Never said it wasn't, Mr. Straw Man. I also never claimed it was about him specifically, but it (when it became the OFFICIAL national motto) certainly happened when it happened for a reason. I think you know this.
"My own feeling in the matter is due to my very firm conviction that to put such a motto on coins, or to use it in any kindred manner, not only does no good but does positive harm, and is in effect irreverence, which comes dangerously close to sacrilege ... it seems to me eminently unwise to cheapen such a motto by use on coins, just as it would be to cheapen it by use on postage stamps, or in advertisements."
You don't need a majority to destroy and takeover a country if you have the patience to do so.
As I said above, I don't care if someone is a communist, but I do not want them in a position where they can enslave us. As the old saying goes, you have a right to do anything that doesn't infringe on another's rights...and that's how I view this.
And how did McCarthy not infringe on the rights of Communists? And anyone else he cared to call to his committee? McCarthy was ALL about infringing on other people's rights.
Well, guess what? The Communists took control in Russia from an absolute monarchy that was toppled by revolution, they didn't force their way into a Democratic Republic.
No, Russia was a democratic republic by that point. The tsar was gone already.
And how did McCarthy not infringe on the rights of Communists? And anyone else he cared to call to his committee? McCarthy was ALL about infringing on other people's rights.
But without stopping the communists, everyone would lose their rights. What to do? The communists quite intentionally used our freedoms against us to try to enslave us.
Well guess what? The commies weren't exactly voted into power in Russia either. They forced their way in.
The communists who infiltrated our government intended to weaken us, send classified info. to the USSR, and use various means to impose their will.
Russia was ripe for a takeover. There were a whole string of events that allowed that to happen. And you know what else? They didn't have the same sort of government as we do when that took place. You know this though and are being thick for the sake of argument (I hope).
And you know what else? If communists want to live in this country, too bad. That's how it goes my friend. You don't get to pick one ideology that was WARPED by dictators and decide it should be outlawed. I can't think of anything more un-American than suppressing a group due to their beliefs, can you, Mr. LIBERTARIAN?
You're a libertarian, aren't you, arctic? The people he attacked were Americans, many of whom weren't even active in the Communist Party in the 1950's because they saw what had happened in Russia. McCarthy was a political hack who engineered a "red scare" in order to gain power. He was a bully, and had no respect for the concept of honor.
How exactly were the communists going to gain control of our country? People complain all the time about how difficult it is for any political party besides Democrats and Republicans to gain traction in our country. We're a Democratic Republic, remember. They simply didn't have the numbers to influence our government even incrementally.
We're a country with the two largest oceans as our eastern and western borders, and friendly countries to the north and south, making us a very difficult country to invade, especially in the 1950's.
The "red scare" was a boogeyman, and the fact that people are still scared today by a non-credible threat is just sad.
There is nothing non-credible about government over-stepping itself and sticking its nose where it doesn’t belong.
Liberty is expensive and to be protected by the citizens AGAINST their own government.
No one thinks the Russians were about to invade but in the 1950’s there was plenty of plausible reason to think that our government was capable of overstepping and moving toward a communist dictatorship.
You forget the context of the time DC, which is odd for you because you are as reasonable a person as I have ever debated on this forum.
The men running the government had lived thru the FDR years. Please note that upon his death, America decided it was too dangerous to let a President have more than 2 terms as president.
These men had also seen in the 1930’s the FDR administration locking people up for doing things like lowering the price of their goods and services.
FDR had implemented things that were socialist leaning. There had been property rights issues as well and on top of that America in the 1950’s was in a death struggle with communists all over the world.
Add to that the rising nuclear threat. The world was a scary place and there really were Americans who wanted the Soviets to win.
McCarthy ended up over reaching and I suspect power did go to his head, but that doesn’t mean there weren’t really good reasons within the context of his time, to take a very hard stand against the infiltration of communists in our government.
As bad as McCarthy was, he never once had a free born American locked up for just wanting to operate an honest business. Franklin Roosevelt the darling of the left and a hero beyond scrutiny did exactly that more than once.
So don’t give me this schlock about McCarthy being a complete idiot. The truth is there is a great deal more nuance to the story than you are admitting here.
But without stopping the communists, everyone would lose their rights. What to do? The communists quite intentionally used our freedoms against us to try to enslave us.
Hurry up and move to Alaska already. You'll be safer from the Reds there I hear! Bring your laser disc of Red Dawn with you!
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It was put on there in the 50s when the McCarthyists were running wild. They also forced their god into the Pledge of Allegiance, around that same era. You'd think that "In God We Trust" has been around since Revolutionary times though - listening to some conservatives.
So In God we trust has been around since the Civil war
The motto IN GOD WE TRUST was placed on United States coins largely because of the increased religious sentiment existing during the Civil War. Secretary of the Treasury Salmon P. Chase received many appeals from devout persons throughout the country, urging that the United States recognize the Deity on United States coins. From Treasury Department records, it appears that the first such appeal came in a letter dated November 13, 1861. It was written to Secretary Chase by Rev. M. R. Watkinson, Minister of the Gospel from Ridleyville, Pennsylvania, and read:
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