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Old 05-11-2010, 09:53 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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He made a point about the over-saturation of modern culture via trivial information streaming through the web. He stated his opinion as to how people should behave with respect to this constant stream of information in order to be personally effective. He didn't say that he's trying to cut off the media and censor everyone's morning newspaper like they do in Iran, so calm down.

God, some of you people really are stupid and will twist anything into your narrow-minded agenda.
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Old 05-11-2010, 09:57 PM
 
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We need a "Ministry of Information". They can filter all the news and tell us what "they think" we need to know. The MSM does that today.

Notice Obama talked about the "off sites" that pretty much have the REAL news.
It exists: The White House Blog....even the news folk are saying Obama is making his own news releases..
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Old 05-11-2010, 10:10 PM
 
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Amusing how people in this very thread so readily and uncritically accept the Fox News distortion of his comments and unwittingly reinforce the point that he was making, which is that in a media-saturated world, people who are not selective about how and what kind of information they absorb end up with an off-kilter view of world imposed largely by outside forces.
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Old 05-11-2010, 10:14 PM
 
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Here is a PBS video attempting to understand the same cultural phenomenon he's referring:

Digital Nation | FRONTLINE | PBS Video
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Old 05-11-2010, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Amusing how people in this very thread so readily and uncritically accept the Fox News distortion of his comments and unwittingly reinforce the point that he was making, which is that in a media-saturated world, people who are not selective about how and what kind of information they absorb end up with an off-kilter view of world imposed largely by outside forces.
Do you know who Obama's main propaganda man is? In case you don't you might try to see what Cass Sunstein does each day.

Propaganda is anything from absolute lie to absolute truth that is used to further one's agenda. Yep, we do get all kinds of propaganda from the White House.
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Old 05-11-2010, 10:16 PM
 
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Do you know who Obama's main propaganda man is? In case you don't you might try to see what Cass Sunstein does each day.

Propaganda is anything from absolute lie to absolute truth that is used to further one's agenda. Yep, we do get all kinds of propaganda from the White House.
No joke. The White House Press Secretary is a propaganda official, and there are plenty of others who shape the message.

What's your point?

I disagree with lots of things Obama says and does, but the point he's making here is correct, and the original post is a completely ridiculous misinterpretation of his words.
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Old 05-11-2010, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Rational World Park
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Do you know who Obama's main propaganda man is? In case you don't you might try to see what Cass Sunstein does each day.

Propaganda is anything from absolute lie to absolute truth that is used to further one's agenda. Yep, we do get all kinds of propaganda from the White House.
And who told you that?? What does that have to do with the lie that spawn this embarrassing yet enlightening thread?

No need for a reply, I'm out.
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Old 05-11-2010, 10:37 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Do you know who Obama's main propaganda man is? In case you don't you might try to see what Cass Sunstein does each day.

Propaganda is anything from absolute lie to absolute truth that is used to further one's agenda. Yep, we do get all kinds of propaganda from the White House.
Propaganda would also be what you just swallowed up from FOX on this whole claim that Obama wants us to have "less information".
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Old 05-11-2010, 11:23 PM
 
Location: Northern Wi
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Here's an article that will refresh your memory or teach you something.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/23047
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Old 05-11-2010, 11:26 PM
 
Location: NE Phoenix!
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What the OP neglects to even consider is the idea that the more information to which we have access, the less information we can bother ourselves to process. Also, "information" by itself is not factual, nor is it relevant - it just is. In the era of "We Report, You Decide," I don't see a lot of deciding going on.

A Neil Postman quote is apt:

What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one. Orwell feared those who would deprive us information. Huxley feared those who would give us so much that we would be reduced to passivity and egoism. Orwell feared that the truth would be concealed from us. Huxley feared the truth would be drowned in a sea of irrelevance. Orwell feared we would become a captive culture. Huxley feared we would become a trivial culture, preoccupied with some equivalent of the feelies, the orgy porgy, and the centrifugal bumblepuppy.
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