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For god's sake man. Without him, there would have been no United States in the first place.
We agree on something, again. I tried to rep you but wasn't allowed to do it. When I can't rep people I tell them on the thread. Too many people don't know why we say he is it.
He ended slavery and put those southerners in their place.
President Lincoln's signing of the Emancipation Proclamation did not end slavery. It simply outlawed slavery in those states that remained resistant to the Union. Furthermore, the signing of the Emancipation Proclamation only ended slavery in those states as it had come to be known.
Very few people are aware that acts of slavery actually existed well into the 20th century. In fact, there's documentation of a family still being held in slave like circumstances as late as the early to mid 1960s. Either way, the death of slavery simply gave birth to an out of control prison population.
Slavery didn't simply end with the signing of some Bill outlawing it. Just as outlawing lynching didn't end lynching and outlawing racial discrimination hasn't put an end to racial discrimination. Slavery reinvented itself in the form of the prison system. During slavery, the prison system remained at a constant 3% (pred. white males). After slavery, the prison system rose to a staggering 67%. Almost 100% of that 67% of prisoners was black and/or descendants of slaves. And like slavery, many wealthy factory owners and other businessmen, along with the prisons, profited and benefited from this new form of slavery under the headings of "prisoners". Businessmen became wealthy via a system of leasing or sub-leasing prisoners from various prisons. They would pay the prisons a fee for each prisoner leased then use the prisoners to work in their factories, or sub-lease the prisoner to other factories or businesses. The prisons were paid, the businessmen were rewarded through free labor and became wealthy from that free labor but, like slavery, the prisoners received nothing.
Fast forward all that to today and we can see how much nothing but the scenery and time periods have changed. Prison labor remains one of the cheapest forms of labor in America. Prison stock always remain stable in the stock market even as other stocks fall or even crash.
President Lincoln's signing of the Emancipation Proclamation did not end slavery. It simply outlawed slavery in those states that remained resistant to the Union. Furthermore, the signing of the Emancipation Proclamation only ended slavery in those states as it had come to be known.
Very few people are aware that acts of slavery actually existed well into the 20th century. In fact, there's documentation of a family still being held in slave like circumstances as late as the early to mid 1960s. Either way, the death of slavery simply gave birth to an out of control prison population.
Slavery didn't simply end with the signing of some Bill outlawing it. Just as outlawing lynching didn't end lynching and outlawing racial discrimination hasn't put an end to racial discrimination. Slavery reinvented itself in the form of the prison system. During slavery, the prison system remained at a constant 3% (pred. white males). After slavery, the prison system rose to a staggering 67%. Almost 100% of that 67% of prisoners was black and/or descendants of slaves. And like slavery, many wealthy factory owners and other businessmen, along with the prisons, profited and benefited from this new form of slavery under the headings of "prisoners". Businessmen became wealthy via a system of leasing or sub-leasing prisoners from various prisons. They would pay the prisons a fee for each prisoner leased then use the prisoners to work in their factories, or sub-lease the prisoner to other factories or businesses. The prisons were paid, the businessmen were rewarded through free labor and became wealthy from that free labor but, like slavery, the prisoners received nothing.
Fast forward all that to today and we can see how much nothing but the scenery and time periods have changed. Prison labor remains one of the cheapest forms of labor in America. Prison stock always remain stable in the stock market even as other stocks fall or even crash.
I think this might be a little too deep for this thread. If your trying to make the case that Lincoln isn't the best. There are better arguments to be had.
Reagan wtf are folks nuts or what. It is of course FDR by a mille. My only bone to pick with him was his covering up the coupe' plot against him. He could have cleaned this country up for generations.
Chronologically (sort of) the best presidents we've had:
Washington
Jefferson
Lincoln
FDR
Eisenhower.
George Washington for his great efforts into making the country; Jefferson for his various activities which included his development of a good relationship with the French (which helped during the Revolution, I think) and making the Louisiana Purchase; Lincoln for pounding the South into the dust and having the sense of honor to not completely humiliate them (helping them rebuild) and ending slavery; FDR for creating jobs and things to do out of practically nothing, in addition to preparing our country for the Second World War and later leading our country during the war; and Eisenhower for warning us of the military-industrial complex and perhaps the most deft use of a secret agency by any United States president EVER.
I'm sure some of these men are looking down upon us and wondering what the **** we're doing.
Too bad Ben Franklin never was President, he would have been great as well.
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