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I'm still following this story...but I'm becoming less interesting in the mother and babies (they are here, life will go on) and more interested in the medical ethics.
So, here is my question: should women undergoing IVF treatment be forced to selectively abort if they are found to be carrying more than X number of fetuses?
Personally, I would put X at 4. But I would like to hear what other people think.
Please respond after reading the aforementioned article, thanks
I'm still following this story...but I'm becoming less interesting in the mother and babies (they are here, life will go on) and more interested in the medical ethics.
So, here is my question: should women undergoing IVF treatment be forced to selectively abort if they are found to be carrying more than X number of fetuses?
Personally, I would put X at 4. But I would like to hear what other people think.
Please respond after reading the aforementioned article, thanks
IVF doctors discard embryos everyday isn't that in of itself abortion?
The simple fact is that the older kids in this case are NOT old enough to help out with the younger ones (at least at this point) AND she HAS to rely on others to help (like her parents)...if she had a husband to help his help could at least replace her mom's.
Although I know it's none of my business, I don't approve of ANY parents having 14 kids....even if they can take care of all of them. It's just not good for the kids IMO.
No, no way in hell two people alone would be able to take care of 14 kids under the age of 8. That is just impossible. Especially since some are disabled.
If this happened in the UK with a foreigner having 8 kids and having 6 already, there would be blood on the streets. Us Brits hate foreigners who sponge off our system.
Well here in the US that is why people jump the border to get here.
We have a ton of illegals (mainly mexican but other nationalities as well) who use our schools, hospitals, and other services free of charge with no limit on how many kids they can pop out.
But this is still OFFENSIVE even to us.
IVF doctors discard embryos everyday isn't that in of itself abortion?
True and that raises the question of whether or not those who are "pro life" should engage in IVF in the first place however....that's probably one for the "great debates" section.
For the purpose of the "parenting" section (and this particular topic) let's stick to actual implanted embryos/fetuses.
I'm still following this story...but I'm becoming less interesting in the mother and babies (they are here, life will go on) and more interested in the medical ethics.
So, here is my question: should women undergoing IVF treatment be forced to selectively abort if they are found to be carrying more than X number of fetuses?
Personally, I would put X at 4. But I would like to hear what other people think.
Please respond after reading the aforementioned article, thanks
No. I don't think they should have implanted that many embryos in the first place. I think there should be an absolute limit of 2 and that's what should be forced. Those are what the medical guidelines call for anyway.
I'm against abortion altogether actually and think it should in most cases not be an option at all...much less be forced.
No, no way in hell two people alone would be able to take care of 14 kids under the age of 8. That is just impossible. Especially since some are disabled.
I never said they COULD....I'm just saying it would be at least slightly easier. I also made clear that I don't think anyone should have 14 kids.
Well i did get pregnant after being on disability, but before my case was settled and there was nothing they could do to stop me.
But i was not collecting payments of any sort and i had only been out for 3 months on disability.
I am not sure accidentally getting pregnant is a problem with getting disability- but INTENTIONALLY doing IVF treatments while disabled may be a whole other thing.
It certainly would not have been approved by her chiropractor, pain management doctor or orthopedic specialist that she saw for this "injury".
True and that raises the question of whether or not those who are "pro life" should engage in IVF in the first place however....that's probably one for the "great debates" section.
For the purpose of the "parenting" section (and this particular topic) let's stick to actual implanted embryos/fetuses.
I'm pro-life but I think an implanted embryo/fetus is different from one that is never implanted.
I will say that the whole concept of IVF scares me quite a bit. I'm afraid of what could happen if technology in this area improves significantly. I UNDERSTAND that IVF makes it possible for couples to have kids when they otherwise wouldn't be able to...but frankly the ethical and moral issues scare me.
I'm still following this story...but I'm becoming less interesting in the mother and babies (they are here, life will go on) and more interested in the medical ethics.
So, here is my question: should women undergoing IVF treatment be forced to selectively abort if they are found to be carrying more than X number of fetuses?
Personally, I would put X at 4. But I would like to hear what other people think.
Please respond after reading the aforementioned article, thanks
I'm sorry, I didn't read the article yet. Will try later. I discussed this with my husband last night. I wondered aloud if a condition of undergoing fertility treatments should be that you HAVE to be ok with reduction. I don't know. I don't know if I'm even ok with it. But if you are willing to turn to medical science to help you get pregnant, maybe you should be willing to also use medical science to make sure the pregnancy proceeds safely and within reason.
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