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Old 12-31-2013, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Iowa
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Changed my mind, decided not to comment!

Last edited by susancruzs; 12-31-2013 at 04:06 PM.. Reason: Removed my initial thought

 
Old 01-01-2014, 04:07 AM
 
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Where exactly did Tebow fail as a quarterback in the NFL?
When he couldn't make a football team in 2013 and is now out of the league.
 
Old 01-01-2014, 11:28 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Where exactly did Tebow fail as a quarterback in the NFL?
Well, he failed stats-wise and my eyeball test watching him play.
As for as the real reasons, you can ask his former NFL coaches: John Fox, Rex Ryan, Bill Belichick, and Josh McDaniels (the "believer" who drafted him in Denver and picked him up last season in NE), and the many NFL teams this season desperately needing backup QBs and decided to not give him another look.
 
Old 01-02-2014, 11:14 AM
 
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With his career on the line this preseason in a very QB friendly system playing against backups he went 11-for-30 for 145 yards, with two touchdowns and two interceptions at quarterback this preseason. Among the 82 quarterbacks with at least 30 pass attempts in the preseason, his 37 percent completion rate ranked last.

Since entering the league in 2010, Tebow ranks last in the NFL in completion percentage at 47.9 percent. He is the first quarterback with at least 300 attempts to complete less than 48 percent of his passes in his first three NFL seasons since Akili Smith from 1999 to 2001.
Pre-season doesn't mean squat. There's plenty of QBs that look great in pre-season then flop real-time. Some players rise to the occasion when it matters most - that's Tim Tebow.
 
Old 01-02-2014, 11:18 AM
 
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Well, he failed stats-wise and my eyeball test watching him play.
As for as the real reasons, you can ask his former NFL coaches: John Fox, Rex Ryan, Bill Belichick, and Josh McDaniels (the "believer" who drafted him in Denver and picked him up last season in NE), and the many NFL teams this season desperately needing backup QBs and decided to not give him another look.
Pee, you eye-ball test doesn't mean anything. Those coaches are the same ones who make all sorts of bad decisions - like giving 40 million to someone who shoots his friends. You cannot minimize the value of character in professional sports. Look at Kurt Warner. No one really wanted him either until Az gave him a chance, and look what he did.
 
Old 01-02-2014, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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The Tebow Apologists make the Joe Paterno Apologists at State Penn University look level headed by comparison. Exactly how many NFL coaches need to cut Tim Tebow before they get it through their head that the guy simply can not play football? If he could not make it in a great situation in New England it's prettyu clear he can't make it anywhere. If it was all about character the Packers would have 52 Boy Scouts and a Boy Scout. There are plenty of high character guys who didn't make it, because they were not good enough. Bur for some reason this guy captured the hearts of people due to a hot streak of a handful of games and suddenly the rules are bent because he's such a good guy. If you can play you have a job, if you can't you won't. It's not that hard to understand.

Unbelieveable that these posts continue. How stubborn can those people be?
 
Old 01-02-2014, 12:28 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Pee, you eye-ball test doesn't mean anything.
It means there's a basis for my opinion that Tebow sucks and it's not just "intuition" like Tebowites.

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Those coaches are the same ones who make all sorts of bad decisions - like giving 40 million to someone who shoots his friends.
Uh, Hernandez was a proven stud on the field when they gave him that contract. What it does say is that coaches care more about onfield talent than about character.

And it's not like all those coaches never gave Tebow a chance. He got multiple chances with multiple coaches based on his college accomplishments. Tebow didn't even impress his coaches enough in practice to avoid being passed up by 3rd-stringers.

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You cannot minimize the value of character in professional sports. Look at Kurt Warner. No one really wanted him either until Az gave him a chance, and look what he did.
Warner played Arena Football (12th best AFL player of alltime, for whatever that's worth) and NFL Europe (led the league in TDs) which got him a backup spot in StLouis (not Arizona) and the rest is history -- Greatest Show On Turf, remember that?

Btw, there are good QBs with good character in the NFL (like Warner), why be stuck with a crappy one? What makes Tebow more special than many many other Heisman-winning QB that failed to have an NFL career? Jason White, Eric Crouch, Chris Weinke, Gino Torreta, Andre Ware, Charlie Ward, etc??
 
Old 01-02-2014, 12:36 PM
 
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Pre-season doesn't mean squat. There's plenty of QBs that look great in pre-season then flop real-time.
Yeah, those players look great because it's easy to look great in pre-season. Vanilla defenses, backups going against you, teams not pressing or gameplanning - makes it easier on the offense for sure.

Which is why it's alarming when a 4th year pro with starting experience, working in a very offensive friendly system with an OC that drafted him into the league absolutely & completely flops to the tune where there were 80 other QBs that posted better results during this time frame.

Also, since this was an audition for his NFL career and a make or break moment for his development I would say that this particular preseason mattered a ton

If he really rises to the top when it matters most then a nationally televised game, against a bad TB team where he got to play the entire 2nd half and make a statement about his viability as an NFL QB would be a good moment that matters ......... he didn't rise, he drove the nail into his career coffin going 1-7 for -1 yards passing and a TD

Tom Brady started that game going 11-12 for 170 yards and a TD on 2 drives

Ryan Mallett finished out the first half with 4 drives going 12-20 for 137 and a TD
 
Old 01-07-2014, 08:37 AM
 
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I didn't see it on the network - but apparently ESPN trotted out Tebow and Dilfer in a QB camp to attempt to make Tebow an NFL capable QB.

Whatever you want to say about Tebow, you can't doubt his love for football.

ESPN’s new Tebow feature creates a stir


 
Old 01-07-2014, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Midwestern Dystopia
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I didn't see it on the network - but apparently ESPN trotted out Tebow and Dilfer in a QB camp to attempt to make Tebow an NFL capable QB.

Whatever you want to say about Tebow, you can't doubt his love for football.

ESPN’s new Tebow feature creates a stir



yeah, espn doesn't have anything vested in that fluff piece.....
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