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Ken Stabler, like Jim Plunkett, threw more INTs than TDs in his career.
Right, but unlike Plunkett.. Stabler did start his career in Oakland and yet still can't find his way to the HOF. I think there is a Raider bias... Can anyone say, Tim Brown!
Stabler played second fiddle to both Lamonica and Blanda for a few years; without checking, his stats are probably a little down..
I did think that Jerry Kramer and Mick Tinglehoff would be in by now; I have my doubts about Jim Marshall--a good player, but not really great, known more for his longevity..
DB/RB Johnny Robinson
CAREER: 1960-71 (Chiefs)
STATS: 57 INTs
HIGLIGHTS: 1) A six-time All-Pro (1965-70) and seven-time Pro Bowler.
2) A member of the All-1960s Decade Team.
3) Helped the Dallas Texans/Kansas City Chiefs (same franchise) claim three American Football League titles in the 1960s.
4) Robinson was an All-Pro performer during the Chiefs' Lombardi Trophy season of 1969 (Super Bowl IV).
5) Robinson stands as one of just six defenders in NFL history to post multiple seasons of 10-plus interceptions (Otto Schnellbacher, Paul Krause, Don Doll, Jack Christiansen, Dick 'Night Train' Lane -- left).
6) Robinson (right) moonlighted as a running back in his first two pro seasons ... and racked up 15 TDs.
I can't believe no one brought up Joe Klecko of The Jets For years he led the NFL in sacks, and had the most sacks in the pre 16 game schedule. The person who passed his record was Mark Gastineau by half a sack. Gastineau only got his sacks because Klecko was always double teamed. Klecko was also the only player ever to the pro-bowl at defensive end, defensive tackle and nose tackle. He WAS the main cog of "The Sack Exchange" one of the most devastating defensive lines in the NFL. If you ask numerous HOF offensive linemen who was the toughest DL player, Joe Klecko's name came up a lot. Every year I am more and more disgusted by Joe Klecko not being voted in.
I can't believe no one brought up Joe Klecko of The Jets For years he led the NFL in sacks, and had the most sacks in the pre 16 game schedule. The person who passed his record was Mark Gastineau by half a sack. Gastineau only got his sacks because Klecko was always double teamed. Klecko was also the only player ever to the pro-bowl at defensive end, defensive tackle and nose tackle. He WAS the main cog of "The Sack Exchange" one of the most devastating defensive lines in the NFL. If you ask numerous HOF offensive linemen who was the toughest DL player, Joe Klecko's name came up a lot. Every year I am more and more disgusted by Joe Klecko not being voted in.
Klecko only played 1 season in the pre 16 game era.. and they did not officially count Sacks back then so how many sacks did Klecko have in 1977? Harvey Martin of the Cowboys tallied 23 (unofficial) sacks in 1977, won AP Defensive player of the year, ALL Pro and was named Super Bowl XII MVP. Still Klecko had a tad better career mostly due to longevity. I know Martin is often overlooked because he played along side Randy White who was constantly double teamed leaving the quick and fast Martin one on one on the edge.
Does Klecko suffer from the same syndrome, being over looked because of Gastineau on the other side?
Oh I disagree, Plunkett deserves it way before Anderson. Plunkett's real problem is being on the lousy New England Patriots for so long, that is why he is not a HOFer. Had he started his career in Oakland instead of just ending it there he would be in.
Plunkett's rating was terrible, even his rating as a Raider.
Ken Anderson led the league in passer rating numerous times even while facing the Steeler defenses of the '70's twice a year!! There's no comparison between the two.
I can't believe no one brought up Joe Klecko of The Jets For years he led the NFL in sacks, and had the most sacks in the pre 16 game schedule. The person who passed his record was Mark Gastineau by half a sack. Gastineau only got his sacks because Klecko was always double teamed. Klecko was also the only player ever to the pro-bowl at defensive end, defensive tackle and nose tackle. He WAS the main cog of "The Sack Exchange" one of the most devastating defensive lines in the NFL. If you ask numerous HOF offensive linemen who was the toughest DL player, Joe Klecko's name came up a lot. Every year I am more and more disgusted by Joe Klecko not being voted in.
I think his role in the "Smokey and the Bandit" movies negatively influenced voters
He was certainly solid, and was most impressive in 1985 when he moved to nose tackle and, IMO, was the best defensive player in the AFC. But I can also see why he was a fringe candidate, probably not to get in until old-timers vote.
Ken Anderson led the league in passer rating numerous times even while facing the Steeler defenses of the '70's twice a year!! There's no comparison between the two.
There are more than a few from the media that are pulling from the quarterback from Augustana college.
Coldhardfacts is a site that doesn't get a lot of print here but recently they came up with a good column called "Injustice For Canton-The Case for Kenny Anderson." Anderson and the Bengals problem was going up against Bradshaw and the Steelers who had as great a six year run that an NFL club could make- four super bowls in six years.
But from 1970 to 1978 the Cincinnatti Bengals was a heck of a club in their own rite. If Paul Brown was known for anything he was known as the first NFL coach who continuously shuttled in plays to their quarterback. And in the Browns early years with Cleveland there is, heh heh, one guy who REALLY stands out as one of the messenger linemen-Chuck Noll! Yeppirs!!
It also didn't hurt that Paul Brown had a guy as offensive coordinator who went on to,um, bigger and better things. That would be Bill Walsh. If only the Bengals could have pulled out that first SB match against the 49ers.
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Can anyone say, Tim Brown!
