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What exactly was your suggestion? Plastic surgery? I refuse to do that. If I were a woman, you would congratulate me for rejecting that, not told that I deserve to be alone.
Um, not exactly. I said to make some changes, not to have plastic surgery. You said no way.
Um, not exactly. I said to make some changes, not to have plastic surgery. You said no way.
OK. We'll leave it at that. But there are many reasons other than my looks that I'm on the automatic rejection list: I'm timid, I'm not violent (women want a man who would readily beat up other men), I'm not a leader, I'm not physically strong, I'm soft spoken, I'm not into "cool" stuff, overall I'm not manly and never could be, I don't have friends because of social anxiety.
OK. We'll leave it at that. But there are many reasons other than my looks that I'm on the automatic rejection list: I'm timid, I'm not violent (women want a man who would readily beat up other men), I'm not a leader, I'm not physically strong, I'm soft spoken, I'm not into "cool" stuff, overall I'm not manly and never could be.
What country are you living in, that women want to see a man beating up other men before they'll find him attractive?
Before I give my views, I have to say I am sympathetic supporter of the INCEL community, male or female. Vast majority of them are good people who for one reason or another are unable to form romantic and sexual relationships.
Most are normal, good folks, people like the Santa Barbara killer are a small minority.
That being said, no women should not be forced or obligated to kiss, date, or sleep with men, incel or popular, if they do not wish to. This notion that people should sleep with those who are not very successful in romance, is just absurd and pathetic.
And you know this ("but they want to know that he would and could if given good reason to") how?
Because I know what men they choose. And I know they expect their man to fight off enemies. It's only natural for them to want that, but along with my social anxiety, bad looks, and "square" lifestyle, I have enough black marks that I'm permanently on the outside looking in. A girly man better have a lot of superb assets I'll never have in order to have a chance, and even then he'll have slim pickens. I know this from 30+ years of life experience.
Because I know what men they choose. And I know they expect their man to fight off enemies. It's only natural for them to want that, but along with my social anxiety, bad looks, and "square" lifestyle, I have enough black marks that I'm permanently on the outside looking in. A girly man better have a lot of superb assets I'll never have in order to have a chance, and even then he'll have slim pickens. I know this from 30+ years of life experience.
But you still said no to making any changes of any sort.
Yes, because there's too much I can never overcome, especially this late in life.
I can't help you then. You have made your decision and fixed it in stone. What you can do now is find entertainment to keep your mind joyful. TV, movies...
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