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Sorry but you called him a smug jackass and an eleven-year-old. You did insult him, whether justifiably or not. At least own your own statements and don't pretend they are something else. Semantic quibbling does not disguise the insults.
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Originally Posted by Ro2113
No I'd say most people don't want to be insulted in such a condescending, rude and abrasive manner which is practically all you have offered here. Everyone here has gone through some dark times in their lives believe or not. You don't believe so because unlike you the rest of us don't act like smug jackasses. You choose to act this way. Of course you aren't going to listen and continue to do your pathetic act of mocking people like an 11 year-old kid. It's sad really.
I distinctly said that he is acting like a smug jackass and he 's mocking people like an 11 year old child. I never said, "you are a jackass" nor did I say "you are an 11 year old kid." You are looking for things that aren't there.
I distinctly said that he is acting like a smug jackass and he 's mocking people like an 11 year old child. I never said, "you are a jackass" nor did I say "you are an 11 year old kid." You are looking for things that aren't there.
Your semantic quibbling is totally unconvincing to me. You may be deluding yourself, but you are not necessarily deluding others. There is no substantive, real difference between "acting" like a ______ (fill in the blank) and "being" one, in the context of responding to someone on a public internet forum.
Your semantic quibbling is totally unconvincing to me. You may be deluding yourself, but you are not necessarily deluding others. There is no substantive, real difference between "acting" like a ______ (fill in the blank) and "being" one, in the context of responding to someone on a public internet forum.
What is this nonsense? you are looking way too much into this instead of taking it at face value. If you feel like I directed personal insults at the guy then report me. I typed exactly what I meant unless you can actually get into my head and see what I was thinking all you have is conjecture.
What is this nonsense? you are looking way too much into this instead of taking it at face value. If you feel like I directed personal insults at the guy then report me. I typed exactly what I meant unless you can actually get into my head and see what I was thinking all you have is conjecture.
It's not nonsense at all. I do believe that you "typed exactly what you meant". What you meant was to insult the guy, and that might have been entirely justified under the circumstances. There is no conjecture involved though, because your words were quite clear. I am not into reporting people except in the most egregious cases.
It's way too simple....The best example is one given by Tony Robbins. He says when people start whining to him he'll suddenly and loudly say STOP! Or something similar ...And they DO! Some even then apologize politely. He then points out how much in control of their emotions they really are. Like the child that falls, a decision is made to cry or not based on the attention they might get. Adults do the same thing. The Marine Corps boot camp is or was the very adult version of tough love...and it worked. You are expected to perform flawlessly under duress, there's no room for failure. Guess what? People that usually couldn't/wouldn't accomplish things suddenly have it in them.
You're troubled by pocket lint, imagine yourself cold and naked...suddenly the pocket lint isn't a problem. The whole reason everyone here is crying over spilled milk is because they are too used to HAVING milk.
Most of you don't really want answers though, that is why you say you aren't getting them....you want a shoulder and that's it. Well, you might want someone to DO the work for you as well.
I've been in the military. To suggest that the military will sort out depression and other mental illness issues is wishful thinking at best. Sure, there will be a lower incidence of mental illness after the training than before but that's because of suicide during boot camp! My depression made bootcamp very hard for me. It sure as hell did not help me in any way. Unless one counts the relief of finally getting out. I did not witness people who couldn't/wouldn't accomplish things suddenly having it in them. What I did witness was those who couldn't/wouldn't accomplish things going to pot. One poor fellow struggled and got into trouble because he couldn't do it right then went awol. Disappeared, never to be heard from again. The military could not find him and that was still in basic training, just a few months into it. Those who have been in the military will know what awol means.
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You're troubled by pocket lint, imagine yourself cold and naked...suddenly the pocket lint isn't a problem.
When one has mental illness, the 'lint' remains a prime focus even when the world is coming to an end!
I've been in the military. To suggest that the military will sort out depression and other mental illness issues is wishful thinking at best. Sure, there will be a lower incidence of mental illness after the training than before but that's because of suicide during boot camp! My depression made bootcamp very hard for me. It sure as hell did not help me in any way. Unless one counts the relief of finally getting out. I did not witness people who couldn't/wouldn't accomplish things suddenly having it in them. What I did witness was those who couldn't/wouldn't accomplish things going to pot. One poor fellow struggled and got into trouble because he couldn't do it right then went awol. Disappeared, never to be heard from again. The military could not find him and that was still in basic training, just a few months into it. Those who have been in the military will know what awol means.
Don't worry about it. I was in the military too. So, this guy wants to equate militarily standards to everyday life. Okay, so he wakes his family up at 3:00 am and runs PT until 4:00 a.m. and then heads for the chow hall ( perfect) and then stands in formation for an hour before physical training begins. That not really a tool for a whole life issue anyway... but it is working for him now ( so it is suppose to work for everyone as the present moment. ) And yeah, lots of pot ( for some people) oh well. it's not my bag and never has been.
Jesus- lets all pick up some cigarette butts and that will solve everything. ( Maybe a thought process for 10 minutes, anyway) Those of us that are high maintenance, picking up cigarette butts will take 5 minutes away from our attention span instead of the usual 10.
AtkinsonDan, your reason for disliking life is the most bizarre and incredible thing I've ever heard. The "chores" of bodily maintenance take up such a small percentage of the 16 waking hours of a day. Consider:
1. Shaving: For a male, between five and ten minutes a day.
2. Fingernails: Once every ten days, the trimming takes no more than ten minutes.
3. Toenails: Similar to fingernails.
4. Showering: Twenty minutes a day.
5. Getting dressed for work: Between five and ten minutes.
6. Eating: Since nature causes us to get hungry, eating is a highly pleasurable activity and thus cannot be grouped with "disagreeable" chores.
7. Haircuts: Haircuts may take about 30 minutes max. I only get one every two months, but even if you prefer once a month, it still represents very little time.
8. Brushing and flossing teeth. Ten minutes per session (minimum of once a day).
There are probably some things I've left out. However, I have to side with Cyborgt800 on this one. Your complaint simply cannot be taken seriously.
I am not saying that the grooming activities are necessarily enjoyable in and of themselves - I don't get a lot of enjoyment out of showering and shaving, although the result is pleasant: feeling clean and looking good.
Perhaps your post was not meant seriously anyway. In that case, I am the fool for responding as if it were serious.
Escort Rider, I meant the grooming as a tip of the iceberg. It is not the grooming in and of itself but the added hassle it creates on top of everything else.
Now I am not suicidal. To be honest after writing that post, I searched on line about DIY options for electrolysis and laser hair removal. My body hair grows so fast that I have to shave twice a day and that works out to be two hours a week sometimes, just for the face. Furthermore it seems like every week I have to trim some part of my body where the hair starts peeking out of my clothes (armpits, upper chest, shoulders, et cetera). I have never liked having beards or mustaches so if I could get rid of the hair it would be tremendous from both a time management and expense savings perspective. Some people might find hair removal to be non-masculine but I just can't dedicate the time and effort to the near constant maintenance and trimming anymore.
As for the fingernails and toenails you are very lucky to be able to go ten days between trimmings. Mine become unsightly after four days. I don't know if I am over-consuming some vitamin or mineral but it just feels ridiculous. I wish it would stop but I have no idea where to begin to discover the cause. If I could get ten days out of a nail trimming, the process would be no more than an afterthought.
I won't go through your entire list as your showering, tooth brushing, flossing and haircuts are inline with my performance but for getting dressed are you including time for ironing clothes?
Suicide isn't wrong, but since our society is still steeped in religious philosophical values, it is still unthinkable and unpermissable to most. I'm alive a)because society has forced religion onto me and deemed that I am not allowed to choose between life and death. b)Cowardice and also fear of failing in my attempt and ending up severely disabled with no absolutely no physical means of ending my life.
micC, I am sorry that your life feels so painful/not worth living. I wish there was some way of changing your circumstances.
My problem with suicide is that there seems to be so little help for those who feel that way. That is wrong! I believe that we all have a right to live happy and fulfilling lives. I've just heard of a mother who lost her son on mothers day. She contacted my ex just to talk and be heard and I guess to try make some sense out of it.
micC, I am sorry that your life feels so painful/not worth living. I wish there was some way of changing your circumstances.
My problem with suicide is that there seems to be so little help for those who feel that way. That is wrong! I believe that we all have a right to live happy and fulfilling lives. I've just heard of a mother who lost her son on mothers day. She contacted my ex just to talk and be heard and I guess to try make some sense out of it.
The reason why more people do not seek out help is because they will be pathologised and stand to lose their liberty by being imprisoned in a psychiatric ward for an unlimited amount of time, if they confess that they'd ever had so much as a fleeting thought of suicide.
I was caught before I could attempt suicide on on occasion, and was told that I could either be arrested for a breach of the peace offence or stay in a psychiatric facility. At the psychiatric ward, every doctor I spoke to agreed that I was not suffering from mental illness. Yet it was still deemed appropriate to deprive me of my liberty, presumably because of the implications it may have had upon someone else's religious beliefs, were I to have been allowed to walk free and had been successful in what I originally intended to do.
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