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Old 01-01-2015, 10:40 PM
 
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Having to change your ways means you've been wrong. I can't accept that I've ever been wrong. I am perfect in theory. I have just fallen short on my own standards. I have imperfectly implemented my own solutions and plans, largely because of the negative influence of other people. But also because of my addictive personality. But I refuse to admit that I am powerless and my life is unmanageable. I am a god. I can do anything I truly set my mind to. I just haven't been motivated enough to stop my addictions. They really aren't that bad, they just cause me to fall short of my own standards. But who really cares? Addiction helps me feel better about any problem. I enjoy it, so why stop? I don't believe in eternal punishment. I believe the physical death is the final and only death. There is no afterlife.
What are your addictions?

If your addictions make you feel better and you feel there is no reason to stop, then why do you say that you haven't been motivated enough to stop them? Why are you trying to stop them if you feel they are not an issue?
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Old 01-02-2015, 06:29 AM
 
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Porn, trolling message boards, surfing the web, junk food.

I would say I would much rather be spending my time more productively. Plus, eating junk food is physically harmful.
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Old 01-02-2015, 08:05 AM
 
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One thing I'd warn you about, that I have seen as a potential negative to therapy, is the client who is using their therapy as an excuse.

For instance. There is something about you that you think is not optimal. But changing it requires effort and commitment and those things, you lack...or your scales simply haven't tipped to the point that you see the return on investment (of time and effort) worthwhile to change whatever thing it may be. You think about changing something, then rationalize why you don't have to...your mind runs in unproductive circles on a matter.

So you see a therapist of some kind.

But you are already prepared with all of the arguments you use against yourself all the time. So you're ready to resist any attempts at "therapy" and then declare those professionals religious nuts or incompetent, and stand strong in the position you already convinced yourself was inevitable.

Whatever problem you identified will continue, because you are not committing to change anything, but now it isn't your fault. It's the therapist's fault. They obviously can't do their job and "help you."

When in fact these therapists can't do a single thing on their own...their job is to help you help yourself. If you are not really interested in putting forth any time or effort to change anything, then as others have said...why waste time and money in therapy? As you have said...you are a god...we are all gods in our own realms and ultimately the power to affect change in those realms is on us, every one of us.

Similarly I know people who lack any interest in doing productive things with their lives and go to therapy so that they can be told they have problems, and then of course none of their failure to put forth reasonable effort in life is their fault anymore. Because they can slap a label on it, a disease or disorder, so now nothing is their fault. And anyone who suggests they should attempt to put forth an effort in life is obviously an insensitive meanie who just doesn't understand how helpless they are due to their mental problem. I would not say this if I hadn't seen it a million times...people who are capable of much but would rather have an excuse. Well this is not middle school PE class. This is life. Life does not care if you have a note. If you don't participate, you're going to suffer for it.

I'm not saying that ^this^ is you...but I'm saying that using a therapist as a scapegoat for your own lack of commitment is similarly being dishonest with yourself.

Lie to anyone else in the world, but never lie to yourself.
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Old 01-02-2015, 02:22 PM
 
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I live in the buckle of the bible belt, I have been to many therapists and marriage counselors over the years, and I have NEVER met one that would say or even believe what you have written.

How did you find the one psycho-therapist?????


I wonder.
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Old 01-02-2015, 04:46 PM
 
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It angers me to think of a young person seeing someone like that at an impressionable age.
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Old 01-02-2015, 05:28 PM
 
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Sticking with them?
Don't start.

One dropped a friend of mine suddenly with abandonment issues...why?
Because she expressed her belief (that month,ha!) in Native Am things...the
Great Spirit, sweats...blabla...when asked what her religious beliefs were.
Next visit she got dumped....cried and cried.
Why was she asked about her religion? That's irrelevant in therapy. If it's so important to that therapist, she should state in her PR that she's a Christian therapist, or whatever her flavor is.
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Old 01-02-2015, 05:47 PM
 
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Porn, trolling message boards, surfing the web, junk food.

I would say I would much rather be spending my time more productively. Plus, eating junk food is physically harmful.
So why did you say that you enjoy it so why stop?

If you really want to stop you can find a therapist that deals with addictions. You have to really want to be helped though, otherwise there is no reason to go.

One thing I recommend you do is find a hobby/new habit, something that will take up your time so you are left with less time to spend on your bad habits. Of course make sure that your new hobby/habit is actually good for you and will improve your life.
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Old 01-02-2015, 06:01 PM
 
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So why did you say that you enjoy it so why stop?

If you really want to stop you can find a therapist that deals with addictions. You have to really want to be helped though, otherwise there is no reason to go.

One thing I recommend you do is find a hobby/new habit, something that will take up your time so you are left with less time to spend on your bad habits. Of course make sure that your new hobby/habit is actually good for you and will improve your life.
No hobby could have the draw of those things I'm addicted to. Social interaction stresses me and drains me and drives me to the Internet to unwind and recharge. A hobby might therefore actually increase the time I spend on addictions and only decrease my sleep.


The next therapist I have in mind to try is an addiction specialist.
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Old 01-02-2015, 06:21 PM
 
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Who is paying for you wasting your time with therapists?
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Old 01-02-2015, 08:10 PM
 
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Who is paying for you wasting your time with therapists?
What's your suggestion as to what I should do, then?
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