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Not a good thing, IMNSHO. I support legal assisted suicide for people who have unremitting pain, people who have a terminal illness, or even people who are paralyzed or have other real quality of life issues that cannot be solved.
But not because you are depressed. If you are that depressed you can kill yourself any time. But getting help to do it? No. This is a DIY project if ever there was one.
I wish I was a Belgian. Those are my main thoughts. There is nobody on Earth who gave their consent to be born. It is only fair and humane that we should be permitted to withdraw our consent to continue living and to be able to execute this choice with a minimum of suffering and risk.
This the main reason why I hate religion so much. I'm disgusted at the fact that people do not have this option of embracing their own mortality because a large segment of the population are too infantile to confront the fact of their own. Those people should be entitled to live out their delusions, but the rest of us should have the right to be left out of it.
Everyone already has the right. Seriously, why can't people understand that?
We DON'T have the right. The authorities can use force to legally intervene, even if your suicide is not posing a risk to anyone else. If you attempt suicide and do not succeed, medical personnel WILL take any means necessary to resuscitate you. If you are so severely injured by your attempt that this precludes any future attempt, it is illegal for anyone to assist you. Furthermore, the government denies access to numerous means of committing suicide for no reason other than to reduce suicide rates.
You imagine that it's a right because you cannot be punished if you succeed and we aren't (yet) all under surveillance at every moment of the day.
Sorry if the truth hurts. If you can't see the agenda being pushed, I don't know what to tell you. Some of us are pushing back....
This is the Psychology thread, it would be great if you left your obsession with the "Left vs. the right" in the P&OC threads and stop hijacking this one.
Not everyone is obsessed with the political arena.
We don't know the details. Maybe her life was very tormented. We don't know who she is, I'm not gonna pass judgment.
I think if Western society is allowed to prosper, that is if religious lunatics like ISIS don't take over the world, some time in the far future people will be able to end life more easily.
I agree with JustJulia though, this could be abused also. I can imagine cult leaders convincing teenagers to engage in group suicide or similar nonsense.
If you really want to die, you will find a way. Suicidal inmates do it all the time with bedsheets, twisted underwear, shoelaces, etc. If you have access to medications, or a vehicle, or a 10th story window, a bidge, a razor blade, etc. Heck you can even kill yourself by drinking too much water (hyponatremia). She doesn't need anyone's permission or assistance. The fact that she hasn't already done so, proves that she really doesn't want to. She wants help for her unremitting thoughts, and that is what she needs, medical and psychiatric help.
Not a good thing, IMNSHO. I support legal assisted suicide for people who have unremitting pain, people who have a terminal illness, or even people who are paralyzed or have other real quality of life issues that cannot be solved.
But not because you are depressed. If you are that depressed you can kill yourself any time. But getting help to do it? No. This is a DIY project if ever there was one.
I know you did not say JUST depressed but I feel so many people do think that. Oh, they aren't terminal, they aren't fighting cancer. If so and so with (name your illness) can get through, how can you not handle your depression? Because depressed people, if chronic and consuming, are fighting for their life.
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Right now I am actively depressed. My muscles in my legs are tense, tingly. My shoulders are tense and heavy. I am at a local grocery store that has wifi. I don't want to go home. I don't really know why other than there is no one there. I am feeling afraid and worried about my upcoming move, despite getting some things figured out, a couple steps finished.
But I feel this big void and I feel lost beyond lost. My head is hurting and my anxiety is getting to me. Let me stop, is my feeling. Not really let me die- though that thought is/has been with me too- just trying not thinking about it right now. But I want my life to be so much more than it is and I am afraid I won't find a tenth of what I want.
Dying is not my option, even with feeling ^ this way and thoughts of suicide so many times.
I know I am creating it and (hope!) one day I will get beyond this. I mean, after all, I created the thought patters in response to life events I had no control of... and that means I can unlearn them, learn better coping skills. It does take time. But in the meantime it is beyond my grasp and that hurts.
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