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You are a minimalist, as am I. Only difference appears to be that I'm married and have kids. But I'm with you on keeping life as simple as possible. A small house, not an apartment, is the way to go. A small house you will eventually pay off and have no more monthly payment. With apartment living you are always at the mercy of someone else who may decide to evict you or raise your rent or strangle you with rules. But I do think you are on the right track with things.
This definitely. My rent goes up every time I renew which I why I am now looking to buy a 2 bedroom house. My payments will be about $300-$400 less per month than I am paying for rent in my condo and I don't have to listen to the people upstairs stomping throughout their place.
If you're young and stay in that house (hopefully the neighborhood stays nice) one day it will be paid off and you won't have any housing expense except for taxes & insurance.
I didn't go through the entire thread, but I wouldn't call the lifestyle you want "mediocre". That has a bad connotation. I think that the pressures of modern society put us in a state of perpetual dissatisfaction where we want more, more, more. They live their lives in suspended animation until they get that soul mate, the dream house, a million dollars in the bank account, and so on. It's never good enough. I used to be the kind of person that wanted this, that, and the other. I wouldn't settle for less than the perfect guy. I was determined that I would not be happy until I made a million dollars by some arbitrary age. I think that is where some of my depression came from, in part. Once I learned to have more realistic expectations and to be happy with what I have, a lot of that dissipated. Not to say that I am not still a hard worker, but it's not the end of the world if I don't ascribe to society's definition of success. There is a lot to say for simple contentment. Not many people can say that they have that.
This definitely. My rent goes up every time I renew which I why I am now looking to buy a 2 bedroom house. My payments will be about $300-$400 less per month than I am paying for rent in my condo and I don't have to listen to the people upstairs stomping throughout their place.
If you're young and stay in that house (hopefully the neighborhood stays nice) one day it will be paid off and you won't have any housing expense except for taxes & insurance.
Good Luck - enjoy your life.
Just not in LA thou
I prefer a condo in a low cost of living area it will probably be much easier to retire there
I don't want kids
I don't want debt
I don't want new cars
I don't want a job with too much responsibilities.
I don't want the Iphone 7 ( Iphone 5 will do!)
I don't want an expensive ass house
Im actually okay with used cars ( as long as it works)
Im okay with not having kids They are cute but I don't want them seems like too much stress all the time
I only want easy office jobs where you clock in do your thing go home which I have.
Im okay with living in just an apartment for now and the only long term goal I want is just to retire on a low cost of living area in a condo.
Im okay with just getting married and sharing with my wife my life thats it.
I want to enjoy life( on occasions travel around the world, visit more areas in california, play a sports together swim together, watch christmas movies for christmas, decorate our tree, go to the zoo lights once every christmas, etc) with my wife/girlfriend.
Spend money on some vacation dinner dates my personal hobbies etc
Forget the house
Are adults just generally expect to be stressed all the time and just work so damn hard all the time?
I want only a low stress mediocre simple lifestyle.
Does any one feel the same way? Or is it just me
Why do I feel this way?
I don't want to be one of the dissenters of this kind of lifestyle, because it's your life and you can choose to live it any way you want to. And in fact it can be very admirable to live a simple kind of life style.
However I will give a bit of advice:
1. Motivation. This is me projecting but being content with little can sometimes be a signifier of a lack of motivation. If you have something you're passionate about then that's great, but if you're just thinking about loafing around or worse toiling away at a job you don't like to live a mediocre life, then again, although it's up to you, I don't see how that's really living.
Again I'm not talking about having to make money, or buying things, but just being happy...if in fact you believe and are truly happy living the life you want then go right ahead. But passion for me in something is necessary; something that drives you to keep living. To become your better self or at least better at something.
2. You may change, circumstances may change. I was young once too. I don't know how old you are, but for a long time I felt that way...until I got married and decided to have children.
Money isn't everything but life can throw you curveballs and if you're not prepared and living for the moment, then if and when you decide you want to have certain things, it's that much harder to switch over to a new mindset and try to get it.
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People work hard or aspire beyond a "mediocre" life style for many different reasons; some people just can't help it, some are type-A, some want lots of toys and money, some do it for their family, some have to do it for their family, some want admiration, or to be loved, and some do it for all of the reasons above.
But in the end what matters is your happiness, I'm just suggesting that sometimes these things, feelings/circumstances change.
I don't want kids
I don't want debt
I don't want new cars
I don't want a job with too much responsibilities.
I don't want the Iphone 7 ( Iphone 5 will do!)
I don't want an expensive ass house
Im actually okay with used cars ( as long as it works)
Im okay with not having kids They are cute but I don't want them seems like too much stress all the time
I only want easy office jobs where you clock in do your thing go home which I have.
Im okay with living in just an apartment for now and the only long term goal I want is just to retire on a low cost of living area in a condo.
Im okay with just getting married and sharing with my wife my life thats it.
I want to enjoy life( on occasions travel around the world, visit more areas in california, play a sports together swim together, watch christmas movies for christmas, decorate our tree, go to the zoo lights once every christmas, etc) with my wife/girlfriend.
Spend money on some vacation dinner dates my personal hobbies etc
Forget the house
Are adults just generally expect to be stressed all the time and just work so damn hard all the time?
I want only a low stress mediocre simple lifestyle.
Does any one feel the same way? Or is it just me
Why do I feel this way?
I'm kinda the same way and it's like even then it's asking too much. I am fine with my Iphone 5. I want to keep it for as long as I can but the way Apple runs you can't. Eventually it slows down and many apps don't work.
There's only two ways we seem to differ: I'm getting tired of living in an apartment. It gets to be a burden. You can never pay it off like you can a house the bill is with you for as long as you stay there. It's also too stressful because even though it is your apartment in a way it's not yours because you share close proximity with many people and you have to deal with mandatory utility checks every now and then. They can also tell you what you can put on your patio. I definitely don't need a mansion though..just a nice sized house in an area that I feel at home in. I like to be private unfortunately so a house would be better for me but even decent sized houses today are a lot of money.
The other way we differ is being the unique person I am I cannot settle for a mediocre man at least not happily. A man that I would connect with would be difficult to get as they are the music/poetic type. Also I have thought about even if I were to be with him I might have to deal with an extravagant lifestyle.
I would like to travel the world too but that's difficult to accomplish. I think wanting simple meaningful experiences sadly is asking for too much. You can buy a big screen TV for cheaper than you can to experience the world. I don't really understand why but that's how it is. I often wish I was more materialistic. It seems simpler because they can just buy whatever they want on Amazon but for me to want to live in a nice house have better health and want to be with my kindred spirit that has a low chance of happening. I think it's because you can't really buy this. Well I mean you can live in a nice house with enough money but you don't know whether it will be a house in an area you feel comfortable in..you can't buy the prediction that this is the house you will feel safe in.
Right now I am even more simple..I just want a job so I can at least have a better chance at it but even that is asking too much.
The logic of democratic socialism is to make this sort of life available to all. I defer to the Danish poster 'Frihed' who posted upthread, as he should be personally well-acquainted. At the risk of politicizing the thread, my fellow Bernie supporters should also (at some level) understand the desirability of such a lifestyle.
So who is going to work very hard so the rest of us don't have to?
Replying to OP, you feel this way because that's who you are. There is no police who will arrest you for not jumping on the bandwagon of a modern lifestyle!! Do what YOU want. Do NOT ever think there's something wrong with living a simple, peaceful life.
My brother is single, lives in Silicon Valley, is an software engineer, and makes $100K. You would think he would fit their stereotypical modern lifestyle, but he drives a 13 year old car, lives in an old bland apartment with no decorations, is single, has no big screen TV, no expensive furniture, no Blu-Ray player, owns a small TV, doesn't go clubbing or to bars, has no gadgets, couldn't care less about any Fitbit or any other current technology, he has no interest of being on any social scene, he's not on Facebook/Instagram/Twitter, doesn't drink alcohol, he has no modern touchscreen smartphone, and hates the obsession that everyone has with smartphones. He literally told me the other day that he hates the modern lifestyle.
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