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people with and without psychological issues? This isn't a thread asking about whether I should use them or not but a general thread about anecdotal experiences with prescription drug use.
I live here in Ireland and a few family members of mine take these for their "anti-depressant" effects but stay off alcohol and other stuff purely for the side effects. They also exercise and eat healthy but they say that still doesn't help. Also one of my posh friends says that their brother, mother, sister and father use these in school/work and it helps them cope.
The general consensus however by not just many doctors but the public is that self medicating with drug and specifically these class of drugs is a recipe for a complete train wreck disaster (losing jobs, homelessness, trouble with the law).
Even self medicating aside, do you think that people can use these drugs or any without ill effects?
For anxiety benozos are dangerous and there are many other options like Picamilon, lemon balm, taurine, and rosea rhodiola. For even opiates for pain kratom is what you should be using. Phenylalanine I think could be used and there are many herbs I think that decrease pain as well.
people with and without psychological issues? This isn't a thread asking about whether I should use them or not but a general thread about anecdotal experiences with prescription drug use.
I live here in Ireland and a few family members of mine take these for their "anti-depressant" effects but stay off alcohol and other stuff purely for the side effects. They also exercise and eat healthy but they say that still doesn't help. Also one of my posh friends says that their brother, mother, sister and father use these in school/work and it helps them cope.
The general consensus however by not just many doctors but the public is that self medicating with drug and specifically these class of drugs is a recipe for a complete train wreck disaster (losing jobs, homelessness, trouble with the law).
Even self medicating aside, do you think that people can use these drugs or any without ill effects?
To begin with, neither opiates nor benzos are anti-depressants and shouldn't be taken as such. Which is probably why they are not working for your family members. Opiates are generally taken for pain and benzos are minor tranquilizers.
With that out of the way, the answer to your thread title is no. Both benzos and opiates are strongly addictive and carry with them a great deal of potential side-effects, which is why in Europe a doctor wouldn't prescribe either for longer than is absolutely necessary, after that both tend to lose their efficacy, as your body adjusts to them, so the dozes would need to be varied/increased and the cycle would repeat itself. Not only that but when taken together they increase their toxicity and potential for overdose.
These drugs absolutely cannot be used for self-medication, as that would imply illegal purchase, since no self-respecting doctor would prescribe these as a standard depression treatment course.
And lastly, people can use these drugs but only on consultation with and prescription from a doctor. As for ill effects, all prescription drugs have side effects, how and if these present would depend on an individual, which is why it requires monitoring and review by a doctor.
I think that what the OP is describing, is someone using excuses for addiction to drugs. People who are addicted to things often try to justify it. That would, at least, be my guess about what's going on there.
It's well known that these substances are HIGHLY addictive. The biggest danger I've seen (and I've seen it happen many times here in the US) is when someone becomes addicted to pain drugs, opioids/opiates and then the doctors stop prescribing it, like "whoops...you seem to be addicted, we can't have that now, no more drugs for you!" and then in desperation and withdrawal suffering, they first start trying to get their pills illegally, which exposes them to the black market for drugs (at least here in the States) and then wind up trying heroin, which either hooks them then kills them, or just kills them. Heroin is, in my opinion, taking your life into your hands. Deadly stuff. Most people I've known who have done heroin, it wasn't for kicks and recreation, it was after being already addicted via pain pills, to this class of drugs, and desperate for something to use for the same reasons.
But I have had hydrocodone and oxycodone prescribed in the past for when I had dental procedures, and based on my experiences with those things I feel odd about the idea that they are so addictive. I mean, I don't doubt, since I've known enough people who had that struggle. But I guess maybe one would have to take more than I did or take it for a longer time? Because I did not like the effects, and I didn't want to do it again once I'd taken one to try and manage the pain I was in. Mostly I wanted to be able to sleep, you know?...but those drugs gave me horrible vivid nightmares. So I couldn't even sleep! I switched to just regular ibuprofen/acetaminophen alternating, as fast as I could. So yeah, I don't personally understand how one gets addicted to this stuff...I just know that people do.
Long term use of the drugs you are inquiring about equals addiction - whether prescribed or not - your body doesn't know the difference between prescribed or illegal.
I have a Xanax prescription for panic attacks. It helps a lot when needed, but yeah, benzos are very addicting and addiction will happen. I do just fine with them, but I'm not taking them at every little inconvenience in life either.
Benzos are also depressants, so idk why someone with depression would use them
I have a Xanax prescription for panic attacks. It helps a lot when needed, but yeah, benzos are very addicting and addiction will happen. I do just fine with them, but I'm not taking them at every little inconvenience in life either.
Benzos are also depressants, so idk why someone with depression would use them
AFAIK, "depressant" just means CNS (central nervous system) depressant which are any drugs that slow down heart rate, blood pressure, and breathing. Since doctors have given me benzos for suicidal thoughts I'm pretty sure that they are fine.
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