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Old 06-24-2019, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Homeless
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Say Henry Rollins.

This myth of the seemingly inalienable right to dominance and control perpetrated by men, especially by white males, has myriad catastrophic downsides.
These standards — and postures many American males contort themselves to — are not without consequence. Beyond misplaced anger, feelings of inadequacy and hopelessness, the men who hold their emotions in check — like a stress position used to induce confession — sometimes break. White American males — mostly middle-age — accounted for 70% of suicides in 2017.


https://www.latimes.com/books/la-ca-...620-story.html

Has a child I was told as I grew up not to cry or show to much emotion as people/ women as a whole whole would see me as weak. My wife is having a lot of health issues and I don’t let her see how much it weighs on me. Even though she has said that it’s good for a man to show such things, I know by doing so it would make things worse on her. I know that I’m not the only man going though rough patches where showing emotions are some what taboo.
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Old 06-24-2019, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Germany
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sharing your vulnerability lets you remain strong and create a stronger bond with your partner. I'm guessing you're not weak all the time. noone is. I' sure your wife would understand if you communicate kindly and honestly. it may even make her feel that she wants to be stronger for you. sometimes our desire to get better for others is bigger than our desire to get better for ourselves.
I wish you the best
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Old 06-24-2019, 03:49 PM
 
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sharing your vulnerability lets you remain strong and create a stronger bond with your partner. I'm guessing you're not weak all the time. noone is. I' sure your wife would understand if you communicate kindly and honestly. it may even make her feel that she wants to be stronger for you. sometimes our desire to get better for others is bigger than our desire to get better for ourselves.
I wish you the best
My apologies I wasn’t trying to make this about me as I was pointing out my situation to use as an example.
My wife’s bipolar and has anxieties so no.I don’t dare show weakness of any short,or to much emotion.

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Old 06-24-2019, 03:55 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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There are many ways to be a man.
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Old 06-24-2019, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Avignon, France
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Men do this to one another. I don’t know one woman who thinks that a man’s showing emotion or vulnerability
makes them “weak”. And I believe that it’s men who keep perpetuating this myth. SMH!
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Old 06-24-2019, 04:09 PM
 
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Men do this to one another. I don’t know one woman who thinks that a man’s showing emotion or vulnerability
makes them “weak”. And I believe that it’s men who keep perpetuating this myth. SMH!
Why would any man do that? It doesn’t make sense the stress alone is enough to kill you.
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Old 06-24-2019, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Avignon, France
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Why would any man do that? It doesn’t make sense the stress alone is enough to kill you.
Machismo?.. You tell me. I’ve witnessed this many times. Guys calling out other guys. Calling them p****** or telling them to “man up”.

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Old 06-24-2019, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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Just waiting for this thread to turn anti male quickly....Fact of the matter is that most men are happy being men without changing any of our ways (regardless if they are good habits or bad habits).


I think what annoys us the most is the constant examination under the microscope and the free advice from females designed to bring out the new and improved version of men. Just let us be.....bad toxins and all
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Old 06-24-2019, 06:06 PM
 
Location: CasaMo
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Just waiting for this thread to turn anti male quickly....Fact of the matter is that most men are happy being men without changing any of our ways (regardless if they are good habits or bad habits).


I think what annoys us the most is the constant examination under the microscope and the free advice from females designed to bring out the new and improved version of men. Just let us be.....bad toxins and all
Agreed.

Every white knight thinks he's the new modern version of a man and takes any and all free female advice. Such sweet guys every woman wants to be great friends with!

Who wants to be that guy? Not me.
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Old 06-24-2019, 06:15 PM
 
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Default Men shaming... other men.

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Agreed.

Every white knight thinks he's the new modern version of a man and takes any and all free female advice. Such sweet guys every woman wants to be great friends with!

Who wants to be that guy? Not me.
Thank you for proving my point! Don’t want to be “that guy” ... like it’s not “manly” or something. Like he’s less because he listens or he’s not squirting testosterone all over everything. Some of you men could have this whole conversation and leave us women completely out of it.

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