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Greetings from Georgia!
I, like many others I’ve seen in the forum am desperately hoping to move to the Apex/Carey area within the near future. My husband and I live as residential managers and have discovered our company is being sold off and we are therefore looking for new jobs as well as a new home. I recently graduated with my BA in human resources. I’ve been applying like mad to any and all entry level HR jobs I can find and have been pleasantly surprised to find that there are a lot in the Triangle region. I’m a little nervous about how the hiring process may go.
I was wondering if some of you who have relocated to the area can shed some light on how organizations in the area typically handle the hiring process for those out of state. Do they require you fly in for an in-person interview or do they perform phone/web interviews? Also, do you think it places me at a less advantage being out of state? Would rather postpone our move until I have a job secure. Any suggestions or input would be great,
Thanks!
The challenges facing out-of-state job hunters has been discussed in numerous threads here. The bottom line is that yes, it's more difficult to land a job from afar. The simplest reason is that it's a buyer's market for jobs. Employers have plenty of local candidates, and many don't want to gamble on a promised relocation (and delay) by someone who doesn't currently live here.
Trying to find a job when you are here can be extremely difficult. It's far worse when you are not here. There just isn't much of an incentive for an employer to waste their time on out of state candidates.
Not the good ones. We just hired one and went out of state to find a good candidate.
Wow. That's tough. I dunno why that would be. HR has never been a field that struck me as excessively challenging or requiring advanced skills and education.
Unless someone really isn't a people person and needs to learn how to communicate, of course.
This might well be because all my experience with HR people has lead me to believe that the majority of them are jerks. But, I see this may be because all the local HR folk are woefully under qualified and therefore over their heads.
OP? I stand corrected. Apply with reckless abandon.
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I decided the Raleigh area was where I wanted to be about 3 years ago. I was living in CT, and faced the same questions about the best way to go about it. There was some trial and error in my efforts - using an NC friend's address/phone number in my resume was a failure. As you could guess, most people don't like feeling like they're being duped! I didn't feel great about that path anyway, so I quickly abandoned it.
After testing out some different variations in my cover letters, I landed on a way that was very effective for me in getting responses - show confidence and determination. Here's an example of the closing I used that was successful - AFTER I responded bullet point by bullet point to the specific job description for why my skill set would benefit the company.
"I am currently living/working in Connecticut, but am relocating to the Raleigh/Durham area, and I'm anxious to speak with you about this opportunity - from the job description, it seems like it would be a great match." Sometimes I'd also state that I wasn't seeking relocation expenses, and could start work in 2 weeks - as those are a couple of the main concerns of HR reps for out-of-state applicants. On phone calls, I would repeat the message - "After a lot of research, I've decided the Raleigh area is where I'd like to raise my family. I'll be moving down soon, and I'm exploring different job opportunities to find the best fit for me. Your company seems like it could be a great match, and I'm confident I could do X, Y, and Z for you" - and move the conversation from location questions to how you can help the company move forward.
Another tip I'd stress - cover letters are key, and every one you send should be customized for the specific job your applying for! Most job postings are in bullet point format. I tailored every cover letter, responding to the requirements in bullet point format, bolding key terms, for ease of reading. As HR reps get hundreds of resumes for most openings, you have to find a way to stand out quickly! In my opinion, it's better to send out 1 customized cover letter/resume, than to blast a stock resume to 20 companies.
Just my two cents, as it worked for me. Best of luck to you!
I decided the Raleigh area was where I wanted to be about 3 years ago. I was living in CT, and faced the same questions about the best way to go about it. There was some trial and error in my efforts - using an NC friend's address/phone number in my resume was a failure. As you could guess, most people don't like feeling like they're being duped! I didn't feel great about that path anyway, so I quickly abandoned it.
After testing out some different variations in my cover letters, I landed on a way that was very effective for me in getting responses - show confidence and determination. Here's an example of the closing I used that was successful - AFTER I responded bullet point by bullet point to the specific job description for why my skill set would benefit the company.
"I am currently living/working in Connecticut, but am relocating to the Raleigh/Durham area, and I'm anxious to speak with you about this opportunity - from the job description, it seems like it would be a great match." Sometimes I'd also state that I wasn't seeking relocation expenses, and could start work in 2 weeks - as those are a couple of the main concerns of HR reps for out-of-state applicants. On phone calls, I would repeat the message - "After a lot of research, I've decided the Raleigh area is where I'd like to raise my family. I'll be moving down soon, and I'm exploring different job opportunities to find the best fit for me. Your company seems like it could be a great match, and I'm confident I could do X, Y, and Z for you" - and move the conversation from location questions to how you can help the company move forward.
Another tip I'd stress - cover letters are key, and every one you send should be customized for the specific job your applying for! Most job postings are in bullet point format. I tailored every cover letter, responding to the requirements in bullet point format, bolding key terms, for ease of reading. As HR reps get hundreds of resumes for most openings, you have to find a way to stand out quickly! In my opinion, it's better to send out 1 customized cover letter/resume, than to blast a stock resume to 20 companies.
Just my two cents, as it worked for me. Best of luck to you!
Gotta love positive posts like these. When you talk about jobs on this board 95% of the people will just throw negative things at you. HR people are a dime a dozen, job market is tough, it's impossible to find a job. Seriously? Unfortunately that's the general mindset for most people in America. They focus on the negative of everything.
I decided the Raleigh area was where I wanted to be about 3 years ago. I was living in CT, and faced the same questions about the best way to go about it. There was some trial and error in my efforts - using an NC friend's address/phone number in my resume was a failure. As you could guess, most people don't like feeling like they're being duped! I didn't feel great about that path anyway, so I quickly abandoned it.
After testing out some different variations in my cover letters, I landed on a way that was very effective for me in getting responses - show confidence and determination. Here's an example of the closing I used that was successful - AFTER I responded bullet point by bullet point to the specific job description for why my skill set would benefit the company.
"I am currently living/working in Connecticut, but am relocating to the Raleigh/Durham area, and I'm anxious to speak with you about this opportunity - from the job description, it seems like it would be a great match." Sometimes I'd also state that I wasn't seeking relocation expenses, and could start work in 2 weeks - as those are a couple of the main concerns of HR reps for out-of-state applicants. On phone calls, I would repeat the message - "After a lot of research, I've decided the Raleigh area is where I'd like to raise my family. I'll be moving down soon, and I'm exploring different job opportunities to find the best fit for me. Your company seems like it could be a great match, and I'm confident I could do X, Y, and Z for you" - and move the conversation from location questions to how you can help the company move forward.
Another tip I'd stress - cover letters are key, and every one you send should be customized for the specific job your applying for! Most job postings are in bullet point format. I tailored every cover letter, responding to the requirements in bullet point format, bolding key terms, for ease of reading. As HR reps get hundreds of resumes for most openings, you have to find a way to stand out quickly! In my opinion, it's better to send out 1 customized cover letter/resume, than to blast a stock resume to 20 companies.
Just my two cents, as it worked for me. Best of luck to you!
Yep, that's pretty much what worked for me. State that you are moving here, not that you want to move here. Being in HR I'm sure you know the value of a well crafted cover letter, as well as customizing the resume to highlight what they are looking for.
I was wondering if some of you who have relocated to the area can shed some light on how organizations in the area typically handle the hiring process for those out of state. Do they require you fly in for an in-person interview or do they perform phone/web interviews? Also, do you think it places me at a less advantage being out of state? Would rather postpone our move until I have a job secure. Any suggestions or input would be great,
Thanks!
My husband is in IT, not HR, so take this for what that is worth. I realize different industries & companies each hae their own approach.
He used a placement company (Robert Half) to help with getting his resume & name out in this area.
He talked with them to start, got help fine tuning his resume, and a few tips for interviewing (had been many years since his last interview).
The company that hired him did 2 phone interviews. The final one was in person.
For us it worked fine since we had planned a trip to the area anyway to check it out & see if it was really going to be a good fit for us.
He was asked to start in two weeks, we countered with three (partly due to a holiday that fell in those two weeks & partly to give us time to find/move him into a small appartment). They were fine with three weeks. Not sure if they would have accepted any more than that though.
You didn't mention where in Georgia you are, but it may be a days drive, so if you can line up Monday interviews could be possible? I know it would be a long weekend & a lot of miles, but be willing to make the effort, it could be the difference in getting/not a job.
Also, save every reciept & track every mile you drive for the relocation process. You will probably qualify for a tax discount. Double check, but I believe if you are moving over 100 mile (or maybe it was 500?), had lost your job (which is sounds like) and there were some other things I can't remember. In hind site we tossed a lot of reciepts that we could have used so save everything & let your tax accountant sort it out.
Good luck!
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so save everything & let your tax accountant sort it out.
