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Old 12-20-2013, 12:39 PM
 
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Spurs are supposed to begin with an odd number (i.e. I-395).

And remember, once Raleigh's outer loop is completed is will be renamed to begin with an even number: I-640/NC640.
Spurs that *do not join another interstate* are supposed to begin with an odd number. If they rejoin an interstate (even a different interstate), they get an even number. So naming it I-495 is correct.

Now that I-540 connects two interstates (I-40 and I-495), it *should* be renamed I-640, but as SFspiderman said, NC DOT asked for a waiver on that rule, and they will be allowed to leave it named I-540. I personally wish they would rename I-540 to I-640, and leave the toll road as NC-540, so it would be easier to differentiate when planning a trip whether you'll need to pay tolls.

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Raleigh has changed many street's names in the past for clarity's sake, like Wake Forest Road, which used to be "Old Wake Forest Rd."
Would you mind elaborating on that? To my knowledge, the entire section used to be just "Wake Forest Rd". They realigned the intersection with Falls of Neuse (and made it so that you had to turn right to stay on Wake Forest Rd), and I believe that's the point at which it became Old Wake Forest Rd. I don't believe the reverse has happened, though. I'm curious to know if it has, though.
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Old 12-20-2013, 04:55 PM
 
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It's off-topic, but the city of Raleigh has been renaming streets for decades -- it's nothing new. Just find a city street map online from 100 years ago.
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Old 12-20-2013, 10:08 PM
 
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How long before 495 signs are posted along the route?
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Old 12-21-2013, 02:43 PM
 
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Spurs that *do not join another interstate* are supposed to begin with an odd number. If they rejoin an interstate (even a different interstate), they get an even number. So naming it I-495 is correct.

Now that I-540 connects two interstates (I-40 and I-495), it *should* be renamed I-640, but as SFspiderman said, NC DOT asked for a waiver on that rule, and they will be allowed to leave it named I-540. I personally wish they would rename I-540 to I-640, and leave the toll road as NC-540, so it would be easier to differentiate when planning a trip whether you'll need to pay tolls.


Would you mind elaborating on that? To my knowledge, the entire section used to be just "Wake Forest Rd". They realigned the intersection with Falls of Neuse (and made it so that you had to turn right to stay on Wake Forest Rd), and I believe that's the point at which it became Old Wake Forest Rd. I don't believe the reverse has happened, though. I'm curious to know if it has, though.
The old Beltline signage read, "Old Wake Forest Rd." Now I believe "Wake Forest Road" and the northern, still-existing "Old Wake Forest Road" are considered to be two different roads.
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Old 12-21-2013, 09:08 PM
 
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Spurs are supposed to begin with an odd number (i.e. I-395).

And remember, once Raleigh's outer loop is completed is will be renamed to begin with an even number: I-640/NC640.
It should have been designated as I-640 at initial conception. As I-40 has more auxiliary routes in North Carolina and I-540 has changed its intended function, it is permissible. Look at Georgia and South Carolina's I-520, now a southern bypass around Augusta.

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Spurs that *do not join another interstate* are supposed to begin with an odd number. If they rejoin an interstate (even a different interstate), they get an even number. So naming it I-495 is correct.

Now that I-540 connects two interstates (I-40 and I-495), it *should* be renamed I-640, but as SFspiderman said, NC DOT asked for a waiver on that rule, and they will be allowed to leave it named I-540. I personally wish they would rename I-540 to I-640, and leave the toll road as NC-540, so it would be easier to differentiate when planning a trip whether you'll need to pay tolls.


Would you mind elaborating on that? To my knowledge, the entire section used to be just "Wake Forest Rd". They realigned the intersection with Falls of Neuse (and made it so that you had to turn right to stay on Wake Forest Rd), and I believe that's the point at which it became Old Wake Forest Rd. I don't believe the reverse has happened, though. I'm curious to know if it has, though.
In time, NC-540 will change over I-540 and keep the tolls.

I foresee New Bern, Greenville and Williamston getting interstate spurs somewhere down the road. I-795, currently connecting I-95 to Goldsboro, will likely be extended north to Zebulon to initially terminate at future I-495 and south to terminate in New Bern. An interstate spur from I-795 in Wilson to Greenville would be beneficial, maybe 195, 395, 595 or 995. I-495 should be extended onto Williamston, Elizabeth City and Norfolk. The logical move would be extending I-97 down from Annapolis through Delaware, Viriginia and into North Carolina. Sadly, North Carolina is creating several interstate highway quality routes that could create a mess of auxiliary routes in the future.
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Old 12-30-2013, 05:24 PM
 
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Road Worrier on this section and other stuff:

RALEIGH: Road Worrier: Road geeks quibble over I-495 and its numerical name | Road Worrier | NewsObserver.com
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Old 01-02-2014, 09:37 AM
 
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Not sure about everyone else, but the numbering will undoubtedly bother me for years to come. I am also undoubtedly a 'road geek'.
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Old 02-26-2014, 06:55 AM
 
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I noticed that Google Maps has added the I-495 shield to that stretch of roadway.

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Old 02-26-2014, 09:09 AM
 
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No more 64 ... This blows my mind. I once drove US 64 all the way to Arizona.
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Old 02-26-2014, 09:13 AM
 
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No, it's still US 64 (and US 264). It just has an additional designation of I-495, and people will eventually refer to the interstate designation over the other smaller routes.

For example, I-440 carries US-1 and US-64 in places, but people refer to that section as just I-440.
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