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Old 10-04-2014, 05:55 AM
 
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In any area, the further you go from employment/educational centers, the "worse" the schools will be. The most educated people in the Triangle probably live closest to jobs requiring the highest education, such as at the universities and RTP. You're talking about an area that was "country" till just a few years ago and the schools will reflect that.
^This.^

Given enough time, FV school quality will go up. As smarter/ more educated parents move into an area, the schools in that area tend to have higher caliber students. But don't let that be a barometer of the quality of teaching. That varies, even within "good" schools.

 
Old 10-04-2014, 06:49 AM
 
Location: under the beautiful Carolina blue
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I'm from NJ. I'm interviewing for a job in NC in 10 days. I'm confused by the school systems down there. I've done a lot of research, there seems to be a lottery system, once your in, your golden.

You need to re-learn how to do research if you've done a ton and that's what you've come up with!

It's a district wide system. You can apply to a magnet school, the rest are by where you live.
 
Old 10-04-2014, 06:56 AM
 
Location: under the beautiful Carolina blue
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Mine were lucky enough to graduate over 10 years ago with great educations.

The bribing of businesses and the touting of magazines brought uncontrolled growth. Schools are only one problem this stupidity and greed created.

We loved NC 26 years ago when we came from New Orleans. Raleigh was a nice middle class city.

After the yuppie influx, it became costly to rent here and the rudeness on the roads can ruin many a day. Not much hope for rail because the legislators only think of the cost. The farebox doesn't normally cover expenses, but savings appear in other budget areas such as roads.

Controlled growth with infrastructure in synch is good. What's happening here now is a crime, ruining such a nice place.
None of which has had any effect on the quality of the teaching that goes on in the schools.

Your O/T political rants disguised as caring about whatever topic is being discussed are becoming tiring.
 
Old 10-04-2014, 07:24 AM
 
Location: new Jersey
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I'm from NJ as well , and they don't have a hundred districts here it's a COUNTY wide district system . I think that minimize educational inequality based on socioeconomic status . In nj if you can't afford 12, 000 taxes in a specific town the quality of your child's education will surely suffer - no need for lottery here unlike nj - I feel like if you care enough every child has a chance at a decent education regardless of zip code. I was just comparing Fuquay to other schools in the county - when compared to other Counties in NC iFv schools fare pretty well . Just concerned with where it ranks within Wake , but some points offered here gave great insight , I believe they will turn around with the change in educational demographics ! Thanks guys
 
Old 10-04-2014, 08:05 AM
 
Location: My House
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I'm from NJ as well , and they don't have a hundred districts here it's a COUNTY wide district system . I think that minimize educational inequality based on socioeconomic status . In nj if you can't afford 12, 000 taxes in a specific town the quality of your child's education will surely suffer - no need for lottery here unlike nj - I feel like if you care enough every child has a chance at a decent education regardless of zip code. I was just comparing Fuquay to other schools in the county - when compared to other Counties in NC iFv schools fare pretty well . Just concerned with where it ranks within Wake , but some points offered here gave great insight , I believe they will turn around with the change in educational demographics ! Thanks guys
I think the schools will eventually gain higher rankings, but the rankings never reflect the caliber of teacher you may receive in any given school year at ANY school. No doubt plenty of bright, intelligent individuals have graduated from schools in FV, gone on to college, and may or may not have moved away due to availability of jobs near FV.

If FV becomes a highly-desirable place for people to live and the population increases, this change will be reflected in school rankings.

I would not make the mistaken assumption that transplantation of individuals with "more education" will make FV a more intelligent town. Or, at the very least, don't say that in front of the locals. Plenty of them are both intelligent AND educated.
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Old 10-04-2014, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Chapelboro
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I would not make the mistaken assumption that transplantation of individuals with "more education" will make FV a more intelligent town. Or, at the very least, don't say that in front of the locals. Plenty of them are both intelligent AND educated.
Yup. Contrary to what some would have you believe, NC does actually have educated and intelligent residents whose families have been in NC for generations.
 
Old 10-04-2014, 09:48 AM
 
Location: new Jersey
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I can only speak for whom I encountered there and the research I did and what I've heard from "locals" . I was not assuming it will be a more "intelligent" town but it may influence the importance parents put into the education of their children which in turns translate into parent involvement ect. and of course performance of schools . I think we can all understand how the education level of parents often (not always) affects schools and performance over the quality of teachers even . We know this to be true in cH/ carborro district which statistically has the highest percentage of highly educated parents and strongest performing schools . All the other towns as well reflects similar qualities and effect have schools that reflect it . I didnt mean to offend but all this info is available on this site .Fv has the lowest performing schools in Wake and FV has a lower percentage of ppl with education over certain point in comparison to other comparable towns in Wake . I wasn't saying only transplants can bring that to FV but rather anyone can bring that -most of whom I met are transplants and most of the ppl I've interacted with / observed are transplants , that's my experience.



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Originally Posted by RedZin View Post
I think the schools will eventually gain higher rankings, but the rankings never reflect the caliber of teacher you may receive in any given school year at ANY school. No doubt plenty of bright, intelligent individuals have graduated from schools in FV, gone on to college, and may or may not have moved away due to availability of jobs near FV.

If FV becomes a highly-desirable place for people to live and the population increases, this change will be reflected in school rankings.

I would not make the mistaken assumption that transplantation of individuals with "more education" will make FV a more intelligent town. Or, at the very least, don't say that in front of the locals. Plenty of them are both intelligent AND educated.
 
Old 10-04-2014, 09:52 AM
 
Location: new Jersey
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Yes agreed , that was point I did not consider and upon further research I was able to make the correlation... I'm still optimistic that this will change and as i am an involved parent I think my kids will be fine -

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^This.^

Given enough time, FV school quality will go up. As smarter/ more educated parents move into an area, the schools in that area tend to have higher caliber students. But don't let that be a barometer of the quality of teaching. That varies, even within "good" schools.
 
Old 10-04-2014, 10:53 AM
 
Location: NC
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In any area, the further you go from employment/educational centers, the "worse" the schools will be. The most educated people in the Triangle probably live closest to jobs requiring the highest education, such as at the universities and RTP. You're talking about an area that was "country" till just a few years ago and the schools will reflect that.
While I mostly agree with the above, Willow Springs, which happens to be "further out" than Fuquay has or had good schools. I'm not sure why that is. Does anyone know?
 
Old 10-04-2014, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Raleigh
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[quote=mokaspeight;36745363]I can only speak for whom I encountered there and the research I did and what I've heard from "locals" . I was not assuming it will be a more "intelligent" town but it may influence the importance parents put into the education of their children which in turns translate into parent involvement ect. and of course performance of schools . I think we can all understand how the education level of parents often (not always) affects schools and performance over the quality of teachers even . We know this to be true in cH/ carborro district which statistically has the highest percentage of highly educated parents and strongest performing schools . All the other towns as well reflects similar qualities and effect have schools that reflect it . I didnt mean to offend but all this info is available on this site .Fv has the lowest performing schools in Wake and FV has a lower percentage of ppl with education over certain point in comparison to other comparable towns in Wake . I wasn't saying only transplants can bring that to FV but rather anyone can bring that -most of whom I met are transplants and most of the ppl I've interacted with / observed are transplants....

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