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Location: Chapel Hill, NC, formerly NoVA and Phila
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Slightly off topic, but I could refer you to the professional I work with whose son attends Northern; the young man I know who attended Hillside's IB program and went to Yale; or the young man, a cousin of a colleague of mine, who graduated Hillside a few years back and was accepted to Harvard as a student-athlete.
Are Hillside and Northern more challenged than other schools in the region? Yes. Does that mean that the schools are "horrible" in the style of the true urban inner-city schools you hear about in high-poverty areas of the northeast and midwest? No.
Yes, those schools are horrible - not just "more challenged," North Carolina is not immune to high-poverty, unsafe, horrible schools. BTW, I can also tell you about some outstanding people with great credentials who came from horrible schools up north. It does not mean that those schools are quite good or even just more challenged. And I responded because I wanted the OP to be clear that the Triangle's worst schools are not quite good. That is simply not true. Those schools I named along with several others in the Triangle range from bad to horrible.
Or this one. Less updates, but has the schools with the highest ratings in Cary. realtor.com
Thanks RedZin! This is the one that stood out and I actually like the most. Ill have to specifically ask to look around that area. I cant do anything right now as I still have 5 months until I have to move there, but I have to accept the offer in the next 30 days or its off the table. I'm scheduled to go down there end of the month.
Yes, those schools are horrible - not just "more challenged," North Carolina is not immune to high-poverty, unsafe, horrible schools. BTW, I can also tell you about some outstanding people with great credentials who came from horrible schools up north. It does not mean that those schools are quite good or even just more challenged. And I responded because I wanted the OP to be clear that the Triangle's worst schools are not quite good. That is simply not true. Those schools I named along with several others in the Triangle range from bad to horrible.
Do you have a list of the "bad to horrible" schools in Wake County so we can examine those closer and help the OP avoid them?
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Thanks RedZin! This is the one that stood out and I actually like the most. Ill have to specifically ask to look around that area. I cant do anything right now as I still have 5 months until I have to move there, but I have to accept the offer in the next 30 days or its off the table. I'm scheduled to go down there end of the month.
Come down and take a look. There are homes to be had in nice areas for a lower budget, and choosing one with good schools and low crime in a family-oriented area will aid you in the future if you want to sell and buy a larger home as your family grows.
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Location: Chapel Hill, NC, formerly NoVA and Phila
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Do you have a list of the "bad to horrible" schools in Wake County so we can examine those closer and help the OP avoid them?
I don't have a list of schools but a quick glance examining metrics such as test scores, violence rates, college/career readiness, I can surmise that East Wake School of Arts, East Wake School of Engingeering, and East Wake School of Integrated Technology would fit the bill as at least "bad" - they certainly wouldn't be considered "quite good." These schools have violence/crime rates that are twice the state average, SAT scores at 100-200 points below the national and state average with very low participation rates, state test scores that are below the state level, and fewer than half of students in each of those schools are considered college/career ready.*
Look, many threads on here from people up north looking to move down here get met with comments of how the Triangle isn't the land of milk and honey and for them to do their due diligence. Taxes are generally lower, there are fewer township-run schools and less local government, and the area is greatly suburban. Those traits bring with it both pros and its cons. Yes, there is no large inner-city urban core here and the problems that go along with it, but most people moving down here from up north aren't coming from the inner city either.
In any case, the Triangle has high-crime areas and low-crime areas. There are schools here that have good performance records and schools that have bad ones. There are high-income areas and low-income areas. There are high end towns and places you wouldn't step foot into after dark, just like everywhere else. So to pretend that ALL of the schools in the Triangle are quite good does a disservice to those who are unfamiliar with the area and ends up bringing people here with false ideas.
I don't have a list of schools but a quick glance examining metrics such as test scores, violence rates, college/career readiness, I can surmise that East Wake School of Arts, East Wake School of Engingeering, and East Wake School of Integrated Technology would fit the bill as at least "bad" - they certainly wouldn't be considered "quite good." These schools have violence/crime rates that are twice the state average, SAT scores at 100-200 points below the national and state average with very low participation rates, state test scores that are below the state level, and fewer than half of students in each of those schools are considered college/career ready.*
Look, many threads on here from people up north looking to move down here get met with comments of how the Triangle isn't the land of milk and honey and for them to do their due diligence. Taxes are generally lower, there are fewer township-run schools and less local government, and the area is greatly suburban. Those traits bring with it both pros and its cons. Yes, there is no large inner-city urban core here and the problems that go along with it, but most people moving down here from up north aren't coming from the inner city either.
In any case, the Triangle has high-crime areas and low-crime areas. There are schools here that have good performance records and schools that have bad ones. There are high-income areas and low-income areas. There are high end towns and places you wouldn't step foot into after dark, just like everywhere else. So to pretend that ALL of the schools in the Triangle are quite good does a disservice to those who are unfamiliar with the area and ends up bringing people here with false ideas.
I don't have a list of schools but a quick glance examining metrics such as test scores, violence rates, college/career readiness, I can surmise that East Wake School of Arts, East Wake School of Engingeering, and East Wake School of Integrated Technology would fit the bill as at least "bad" - they certainly wouldn't be considered "quite good." These schools have violence/crime rates that are twice the state average, SAT scores at 100-200 points below the national and state average with very low participation rates, state test scores that are below the state level, and fewer than half of students in each of those schools are considered college/career ready.*
Look, many threads on here from people up north looking to move down here get met with comments of how the Triangle isn't the land of milk and honey and for them to do their due diligence. Taxes are generally lower, there are fewer township-run schools and less local government, and the area is greatly suburban. Those traits bring with it both pros and its cons. Yes, there is no large inner-city urban core here and the problems that go along with it, but most people moving down here from up north aren't coming from the inner city either.
In any case, the Triangle has high-crime areas and low-crime areas. There are schools here that have good performance records and schools that have bad ones. There are high-income areas and low-income areas. There are high end towns and places you wouldn't step foot into after dark, just like everywhere else. So to pretend that ALL of the schools in the Triangle are quite good does a disservice to those who are unfamiliar with the area and ends up bringing people here with false ideas.
The area that is "East Wake" is quite rural. The OP hasn't indicated any interest in East Wake (Zebulon/Wendell area) and it's really quite far from where he said he wanted to be.
The schools where he's indicated interest in moving are all pretty good schools. Some of them are exceptional schools.
Anyway, I'm not trying to fool him and I don't actually care who moves here or who doesn't. I just recommended a house in Park Village with the DDES/DDMS/GHHS "trifecta of schooling perfection" (TM) because he seems to be looking pretty much for that or something similar.
You've seen me posting here long enough to know that I'm no cheerleader for people moving here thinking it'll be just like the place they left. No way in hell would I do that because I know better. I think most of my post in this topic would indicate that I have indeed warned the OP that this area isn't the same and doesn't have the type of township/borough setup that he's got in Pittsburgh.
If he'd been asking me if he could get the best schools in Wake moving out to Wendell, my advice might have differed, but he's not even sniffing around anything further east than Garner, so my advice that pretty much all the schools will be good still stands.
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