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Old 02-23-2016, 10:11 PM
 
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Just wondered if any of you had had a master bath (not sure of our exact square footage, but we have your standard double sinks, garden tub, shower, compartmentalized toilet sort of master bath) tile floor replaced.

If so, who did it and how much did it run? We don't need ultra luxurious tile, nor el cheapo tile ... a nice, middle-of-the-road tile will do.

We aren't interested in DIY (too busy for all that), so we do need a tile professional that knows what he/she is doing and isn't interested in creating a Monet on our floor. Just tiles we can stand on that look decent, with grout that stays between them and does not crumble under our feet.

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Old 02-24-2016, 12:16 AM
 
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My guy is too far away for you, but for the price aspect, we had ours done along with the hallway leading from entering the bedroom down to and through the master bathroom and water closet. $800. This included removal of old tile, very messy job, install of new tile, cutting door frames and installing all new quarter-round.
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Old 02-24-2016, 04:55 AM
 
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""does not crumble under our feet"....that is caused by a poor substrate....if the floor flexes, then tile breaks and mortar crumbles. Will your substrate need to be replaced/strengthened ? Measure your room, determine the square footage, go to a couple of tile stores, with a floor plan diagram, pick your tile, and ask for reputable installers who sub-contract for them (or maybe they have their own installers), ask for sq ft installation costs. I would be prepared to remove and replace all items I didn't want "tiled around", (I would want the tile under) like the commode, cabinets, moulding, etc. Add 10% to the overall cost for a contingency.

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Old 02-24-2016, 06:22 AM
 
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My guy is too far away for you, but for the price aspect, we had ours done along with the hallway leading from entering the bedroom down to and through the master bathroom and water closet. $800. This included removal of old tile, very messy job, install of new tile, cutting door frames and installing all new quarter-round.
That is a very interesting price, given the work done. Thanks!
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Old 02-24-2016, 06:36 AM
 
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""does not crumble under our feet"....that is caused by a poor substrate....if the floor flexes, then tile breaks and mortar crumbles. Will your substrate need to be replaced/strengthened ? Measure your room, determine the square footage, go to a couple of tile stores, with a floor plan diagram, pick your tile, and ask for reputable installers who sub-contract for them (or maybe they have their own installers), ask for sq ft installation costs. I would be prepared to remove and replace all items I didn't want "tiled around", (I would want the tile under) like the commode, cabinets, moulding, etc. Add 10% to the overall cost for a contingency.

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We have two types of tile on our floor. Large, thick, ceramic tiles (24x24) and small, thin, glass tiles (1x1).

My understanding is that the tile guys filled the channels between the large tiles with mortar until they were high/tall enough to hand set the smaller tiles in those channels. Then, they grouted them in.

This tile was probably laid late last summer/early fall. It had a wee, crumbled area before we closed on the house that they thought was an isolated problem, so they added more grout.

We've been here a couple of months and it's been steadily crumbling the more we walk on it.

They want to dig out the smaller tiles and grout, then lay new ones with grout that has epoxy.

But, if the substrate is poor, will this not cause problems again eventually?
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Old 02-24-2016, 06:52 AM
 
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As noted above, the substrate is important for a lasting tile job. We've used epoxy based grout (as opposed to normal cement based grout) in our bathrooms and porch. It costs a bit more, but much tougher and resistant to staining.

Frank
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Old 02-24-2016, 06:58 AM
 
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We have two types of tile on our floor. Large, thick, ceramic tiles (24x24) and small, thin, glass tiles (1x1).

My understanding is that the tile guys filled the channels between the large tiles with mortar until they were high/tall enough to hand set the smaller tiles in those channels. Then, they grouted them in.

This tile was probably laid late last summer/early fall. It had a wee, crumbled area before we closed on the house that they thought was an isolated problem, so they added more grout.

We've been here a couple of months and it's been steadily crumbling the more we walk on it.

They want to dig out the smaller tiles and grout, then lay new ones with grout that has epoxy.

But, if the substrate is poor, will this not cause problems again eventually?
If the substrate is flexing then the mortar will fail and the tiles crumble/crack/pop.
Could also be mortar failure, but I'd look at the substrate first.

I'm concerned that epoxy grout here is a band aid.

I always use Schluter Ditra under tile. It helps in marginal substrate situations. In wet areas it also helps prevent water migration into the substrate.

Frank

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Old 02-24-2016, 07:29 AM
 
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My guy is too far away for you, but for the price aspect, we had ours done along with the hallway leading from entering the bedroom down to and through the master bathroom and water closet. $800. This included removal of old tile, very messy job, install of new tile, cutting door frames and installing all new quarter-round.
Out of curiosity did this include the shower floors/wall at all? If so that sounds very reasonable, we've been shopping for quotes for a while and haven't seen anything in that ball-park. But our quotes have included some shower work.
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Old 02-24-2016, 07:48 AM
 
Location: North of South, South of North
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That is a very interesting price, given the work done. Thanks!
Yes, he is great. So in reality, I suppose you can add 25% to that for the average installer.
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Old 02-24-2016, 07:58 AM
 
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Out of curiosity did this include the shower floors/wall at all? If so that sounds very reasonable, we've been shopping for quotes for a while and haven't seen anything in that ball-park. But our quotes have included some shower work.
Just the bathroom floor, water closet floor and hallway. Not the shower floor or walls. It involved removing the old tile in the bathroom and the carpet in the hallway. I will attach the photo. Give me a few minutes, as I always do it wrong at first...LOL!

Edit: Finally got the picture to take. Copy. Copy the picture itself, then paste. I always forget. Argh!


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