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My daughter was 3rd in her graduating class last year. Her and #1 and #2 all are at Duke right now! (Holly Springs High).
If you get accepted, and you don't make millions of $$$, you get a pretty hefty grant/scholarship. It ended up being less expensive than State and UNC Chapel Hill for us.
Barely anyone seemed to leave the State. Lots of friends at UNC Wilmington, Asheville And Ap State. Oh and UNC Charlotte.
My neighbor mentioned this to me a week or so ago.
I am nowhere near my kids being colleged age, but I put a ton of value on education (private International MS/HS was my blessing).
He mentioned that Duke may cost 70K on paper, but if you get in and aren't loaded with FU money they will let you do a "pay what you can" thing.
App is beautiful. I'd say App and UNCW are probably the two biggest "destination" schools for Triangle area HS students. Not in small part due to their scenic locales/ being "in-state" but in far-away areas of the state.
App and UNCW used to be what one would consider "safety net" schools but I think that time has past. WCU and ECU have kind of become the less-selective counterparts to App and UNCW respectively.
App alum here lmao we are the school for pot heads no more
Sad truth is that same pipeline kinda ruined the fun cred
I'm a Ga Tech grad. It draws a significant number from the state of NC. But the curriculum is very narrow compared to most public universities, so be sure your kids will fit.
Dealing with this now as DS is a senior in high school. USC is popular, but even with an additional $4k in annual merit aid on top of the out of state tuition waiver, USC is 2-3k more than UNC and NCSU. That makes it a competitive option if you want to "go away" to school, but not a slam dunk financial you have to go here. Alabama and Auburn do similar things with a lower bar for honors admission.
I would suggest if your income is low (or you can make it appear low legally), investigate private schools, as with their endowments, that 50k+ price tag will evaporate quickly. UNC/NCSU do not offer large sums of merit aid compared to other public colleges in the southeast and apparently dont need to as tuition is relatively reasonable.
I'd also add, that competition is fierce for UNC/NCSU from tier 3 counties (Rtp and charlotte areas, etc). Stats that got me admitted to UNC out of state 30 years ago, cause you to be waitlisted from wake county this year. If you absolutely want your degree to be from UNC/NCSU, then it is easier to transfer in, than to be accepted out of HS.
Agree with the private college route. You can see what the income level needs to be to get a virtually free ride at Harvard, Princeton, Yale and Stanford (Around combined $125,000). My daughter applied to all of those schools (didn't get in).
Duke gave us grants / scholarships based on our FAFSA application.
Dealing with this now as DS is a senior in high school. USC is popular, but even with an additional $4k in annual merit aid on top of the out of state tuition waiver, USC is 2-3k more than UNC and NCSU. That makes it a competitive option if you want to "go away" to school, but not a slam dunk financial you have to go here. Alabama and Auburn do similar things with a lower bar for honors admission.
I would suggest if your income is low (or you can make it appear low legally), investigate private schools, as with their endowments, that 50k+ price tag will evaporate quickly. UNC/NCSU do not offer large sums of merit aid compared to other public colleges in the southeast and apparently dont need to as tuition is relatively reasonable.
I'd also add, that competition is fierce for UNC/NCSU from tier 3 counties (Rtp and charlotte areas, etc). Stats that got me admitted to UNC out of state 30 years ago, cause you to be waitlisted from wake county this year. If you absolutely want your degree to be from UNC/NCSU, then it is easier to transfer in, than to be accepted out of HS.
'fo 'sho.
Students from rural NC counties don't like to hear it but it is true....the emphasis on class rank for UNC/NCSU undergrad admission makes it quite a bit harder to get in from a "big league" high school.
I went to the grad ceremony for East Chapel Hill High in 2015 and there were over THIRTY valedictorians.
Students from rural NC counties don't like to hear it but it is true....the emphasis on class rank for UNC/NCSU undergrad admission makes it quite a bit harder to get in from a "big league" high school.
I went to the grad ceremony for East Chapel Hill High in 2015 and there were over THIRTY valedictorians.
It's not a class rank issue but the colleges desire to recruit equitably across the state.
Furthermore a student of equivalent character will just do less in a rural county since it's an adverse environment
But yes the dynamic of more students for small chunk of seats
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