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I don't think you're going to find "concrete information." Rather, you're going to find a public debate on the pros and cons of diversity, the different methods of pursuing it, and the advantages and disadvantages of the different methods.
I think you're right. I suppose no good model exists because it's been impossible to implement without also introducing forced busing, to which many people are opposed for some understandable, valid reasons.
I find those articles irrelevant to Wake. Wake really isn't doing it to balance diversity. It is in a way but not in relation to those articles. Wake is doing in to balance out underperforming schools when it can. Yes, in terms of the district this is good but the students aren't gaining educationally at all.
The students bused out aren't doing any better and it doesn't lessen the higher performing scores in these schools dramatically. The inner city schools where students are being bused in are still very segregated performance wise when you read between the lines. Take Enloe for example. On the mandatory statewide testing for everyone, they perform just fairly but on the Sat's Enloe scores highest just behind Raleigh Charter because not everyone is taking the Sat's. It is usually the college bound students who are bused in from more affluent areas. The inner city students are not part of this equation.
And, before some people became aware and blew the whistle, Wake made it seem like the busing was all Growth related.
I find those articles irrelevant to Wake. Wake really isn't doing it to balance diversity.
Well, most of what I've been reading refers to Wake's diversity policy as the driving force behind the changes. Here are just two of numerous examples that mention the word 'diversity' throughout:
News 14 | 24 Hour Local News | TOP STORIES | Diversity policy the focus in Wake school board race (http://news14.com/charlotte-news-104-content/top_stories/615664/diversity-policy-the-focus-in-wake-school-board-race/ - broken link)
Well, most of what I've been reading refers to Wake's diversity policy as the driving force behind the changes. Here are just two of numerous examples that mention the word 'diversity' throughout:
News 14 | 24 Hour Local News | TOP STORIES | Diversity policy the focus in Wake school board race (http://news14.com/charlotte-news-104-content/top_stories/615664/diversity-policy-the-focus-in-wake-school-board-race/ - broken link)
Yes, but most of the original articles you cited were referring mainly because of socioeconomic diversity and some even cited black vs. white and white flight. This is far from Wake's agenda. There are many types of diversity. I didn't mean to insult you just to point out that this is not what is going on here in Wake for anyone new to the forum that is not familiar.
I find those articles irrelevant to Wake. Wake really isn't doing it to balance diversity. It is in a way but not in relation to those articles. Wake is doing in to balance out underperforming schools when it can.
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Well, most of what I've been reading refers to Wake's diversity policy as the driving force behind the changes.
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Yes, but most of the original articles you cited were referring mainly because of socioeconomic diversity and some even cited black vs. white and white flight. This is far from Wake's agenda. There are many types of diversity.
Are Wake's policies designed to promote diversity for the sake of diversity? No, of course not. They are using socio-economic diversity as a proxy for racial diversity to a large degree, and they are promoting that due to a perceived correlation between race/socio-economic status and educational attainment. The theory is that "diversity" will help disadvantaged students achieve more academically. It's not just to balance out the schools so all the high performing ones aren't concentrated in some schools, while the low performing ones are concentrated in others. It's not about balance - it's about attainment.
Are Wake's policies designed to promote diversity for the sake of diversity? No, of course not. They are using socio-economic diversity as a proxy for racial diversity to a large degree, and they are promoting that due to a perceived correlation between race/socio-economic status and educational attainment. The theory is that "diversity" will help disadvantaged students achieve more academically. It's not just to balance out the schools so all the high performing ones aren't concentrated in some schools, while the low performing ones are concentrated in others. It's not about balance - it's about attainment.
And about life in the world of NCLB. The victory has been won it is now time to lead us forward with new ideas and proposals.
The diversity isn't working. Read my earlier post about enloe and the significant differences between the SAT scores and mandatory state testing. The school is still segregated academically and hasn't helped even with students that are bused in.
The busing IS all about economic diversity not socio economic. F&R relates to economically disadvantaged. The busing is to balance the F&R. Take West Cary and Morrisville for example. There is a good amount of Indian and some Asian. They have top performing schools there. They are not bused in.
The diversity isn't working. Read my earlier post about enloe and the significant differences between the SAT scores and mandatory state testing. The school is still segregated academically and hasn't helped even with students that are bused in.
The busing IS all about economic diversity not socio economic. F&R relates to economically disadvantaged. The busing is to balance the F&R. Take West Cary and Morrisville for example. There is a good amount of Indian and some Asian. They have top performing schools there. They are not bused in.
After the busing for diversity policy ends, do you expect some schools to have an easier time attracting good teachers than others? What do you expect the impact of this to be?
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After the busing for diversity policy ends, do you expect some schools to have an easier time attracting good teachers than others? What do you expect the impact of this to be?
It will be problematic as it is elsewhere. However the new board will develop practices and policies to minimize the issue. Maybe incentives and higher compensation for low performing schools etc. They first meet I believe December 1 so answers to this and other questions should be part of the discussion anytime soon. I am sure the proponents of change in this forum have ideas and are willing to share them. The legendary Sam Cooke said it best:
Been a long time coming but a change gonna come. Just a little over a month to go.
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