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Old 11-20-2009, 10:17 AM
 
Location: SE Florida
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If I were in his shoes, I would have allowed the town to come on my property to attempt a fix. I would fully document everything along the way, and if the problem was NOT fixed, I would pursue the matter in the courts.

I would NOT however, refuse to have the problem fixed, and paint a neon sign on my house complaining about it and hold out for a payment of $250K.
Are you serious? The town of Cary has admitted they caused the water issues. Their engineers likely knew it would "screw" this guys home when they designed the road. They are the big paid experts. They are probably negligent here in their actions. Why is God's name would he allow an entity who acted negligently against his property, now come in and fix it? Are you kidding?

So, given those circumstances why should he allow them to fix it? They screwed it up! If you were in an accident, would allow the guy who hit you to fix your car? Or the doctor who screwed up your heart valve during open heart surgery based on negligence, to correct his mistakes? This home owner probably does not feel the town of Cary is acting in good faith. I tend to agree. It's a big good ole boy system. If you cannot see this by virtue of their ongoing attempts to silence this man in clear violation of his rights, then I can't help you see the light here.

Nothwithstanding the above, lets get back to the real reason why the ACLU has stepped in here. His first amedment rights are clearly being trampled upon by the town of Cary. I'm personally in awe that AMERICAN citizens fail to see this?!? Its the first amendment people! One of the most valued and cherished rights we all share as Americans and city officials tried to silence a man from exercising his right to protest!
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Old 11-20-2009, 10:18 AM
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Location: Raleigh, NC
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They offered to come out and fix the house, he refused their fix, they knew he had water issues before and are even willing to go beyond fixing just their water issues, which can still be debated. He had water issues before which have been admitted! How are they not trying to compensate him by fixing the issues he is having? He is just an angry old man that wants to get out of this house and MAKE money off this situation. He isn't even trying to get market value, he wants MORE. He is just greedy and trying to take advantage of a situation.
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Old 11-20-2009, 10:18 AM
 
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He bought the house in 1991 for $88K. I'm pretty sure he could get $88K for that house now, even with the current paint job! I don't see how refusing to pay his mortgage has anything to do with this - other than he just wants "out" no matter what.
Interesting. So essentially people saying it was "his fault" for buying a house there don't know what they are talking about. I was hoping that would be the case. He's been there 2 decades, I'm sure when he bought it he had no idea Cary would grow to its current size.

In my neck of the woods there are hundreds of homes on Louisburg Rd (NE Raleigh) that have been there decades. Only recently (in the past 5 years or so) has there been any development in that area, and the city has taken their land.

Sure he wants out, but he wants to be compensated ($5k? ARE YOU KIDDING?). I would bet the remark about foreclosing is an empty threat, and detracts from his actual message however (and I agree, it was stupid).
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Old 11-20-2009, 10:19 AM
 
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They offered to come out and fix the house, he refused their fix. How are they not trying to compensate him by fixing the issues he is having? He is just an angry old man that wants to get out of this house and MAKE money off this situation. He isn't even trying to get market value, he wants MORE. He is just greedy and trying to take advantage of a situation.
That's because "market value" now is significantly less than what it was prior to imminent domain taking his land.

Plus, wouldn't you want some additional compensation for the city forcing you to move? I have to imagine you would.
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Old 11-20-2009, 10:24 AM
 
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"Their side" of the property line is Maynard Road - are you suggesting that they just tear up the street and put everything back the way it was? Or should they buy all the houses that were affected by the street construction?
I am suggesting they fix the problem without taking any more of his land or they buy his house.

If the gubment wants to buy the house/land, fix the problem and put it back on the market to recoup some of the cost that is fine.
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Old 11-20-2009, 10:25 AM
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Location: Raleigh, NC
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That's because "market value" now is significantly less than what it was prior to imminent domain taking his land.

Plus, wouldn't you want some additional compensation for the city forcing you to move? I have to imagine you would.
How is the city forcing him to move?

This isn't even about him trying to sell the house, it is about him not willing to let the issue be fixed, he just wants $$$$$$. He had the chance to have it fixed numerous times. He wants out of this house and wants to make a profit, that is clear as day to most.

Just because something happens within the law to your property doesn't mean you can do whatever you want. Yeah the situation is not the best for him or anybody on the road, but that is a risk you take when buying property.
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Old 11-20-2009, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Oxxford Hunt, Cary NC
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Are you serious? The town of Cary has admitted they caused the water issues.
Link, please!

Everything I've seen said that the lot had water issues BEFORE the road widening. The blog I linked earlier even said that the town engineers observed his property during times of heavy rain and there was no unusual amount of water in his yard (paraphrased).
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Old 11-20-2009, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Oxxford Hunt, Cary NC
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Interesting. So essentially people saying it was "his fault" for buying a house there don't know what they are talking about. I was hoping that would be the case. He's been there 2 decades, I'm sure when he bought it he had no idea Cary would grow to its current size.
Nice try.. except Maynard Road has been identified as a future 4-lane road since 1967 (or possibly earlier)!
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Old 11-20-2009, 10:59 AM
 
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How is the city forcing him to move?
If they bought his house.

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This isn't even about him trying to sell the house, it is about him not willing to let the issue be fixed, he just wants $$$$$$. He had the chance to have it fixed numerous times. He wants out of this house and wants to make a profit, that is clear as day to most.
He's owned the home almost 20 years. You feel it's right for him for the city to buy it for what he originally purchased it for some 20 years ago?

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Just because something happens within the law to your property doesn't mean you can do whatever you want. Yeah the situation is not the best for him or anybody on the road, but that is a risk you take when buying property.
Spoken like a true socialist .
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Old 11-20-2009, 11:04 AM
 
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Nice try.. except Maynard Road has been identified as a future 4-lane road since 1967 (or possibly earlier)!
In that case I would bet a lot of roads are identified as 4 lane roads but it never happens. He bought his house 25 years later and it had not come to fruition. Throw in another 20 years between that and the time it was actually widened? You're talking half a century later here...I doubt very many homeowners are safe from imminent domain if you look 50 years out...sounds like a cop out to me.
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