Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Real Estate
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 04-15-2014, 09:23 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
6,116 posts, read 4,609,858 times
Reputation: 10578

Advertisements

I have a question about the way some homes are marketed in the advertisements when listed for sale. I see ads, particularly for smaller, more modest houses that are targeting investors who will rent the homes out, rather than first time home buyers. In some cases, these homes are being sold by an owner occupant but are being marketed as investment property. And then I see ads for similar looking homes being advertised as "great for first time home buyer".

Are there any ethical issues for targeting a home buyer in one neighborhood and an investor in another when the homes are similar? I can understanding why a home would be advertised to an investor if it's already a rental. If it's not, though, is advertising a property as an investment property sending the message that a neighborhood is on the decline and that it's not somewhere someone would want to live as their home but just some place to rent out?

Is there any ethical consideration for encouraging one neighborhood to be bought up by absentee investors but steering owner occupants to another? The "perfect for an investor" ads seem to be for homes in somewhat more marginal or troubled areas, and it seems like this marketing tactic is just encouraging more absentee landlords who are just going to make a quick dollar at the expense of an area's stability and property values. Of course, I know this can happen regardless of how a property is marketed, but is it really appropriate to explicitly encourage this in some areas but not others? Maybe I'm being a bit cynical but it seems subtly analogous to the redlining that used to occur with lending practices.

I mean this in a respectful way, and appreciate any input, especially from those in the real estate profession. I'm in NC (as my profile shows) and I see this a lot here, and have always been curious about this issue.

Last edited by Jowel; 04-15-2014 at 09:42 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 04-16-2014, 12:24 AM
 
13 posts, read 15,205 times
Reputation: 50
It could be that the property for sale has a major defect that would make it impossible to get approved for a mortgage, or the property needs so many repairs and the seller does not want to or have the money to fix it.

Investors are more likely to pay cash and make a quick sale for distressed properties. Then they fix it up and either resell or use it for income property.

This isn't unethical and it certainly isn't redlining.

As a listing agent I would try and get the most money for my client's property as possible. Investors are not looking to pay top dollar so I wouldn't market to them unless the above were true.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-16-2014, 07:02 AM
 
Location: DFW
40,951 posts, read 49,198,692 times
Reputation: 55008
It could also be the home has a current tenant living in it with a lease till next February.

Only an Investor could buy the home since they would need to honor the lease.

Usually "Investor Property" means a piece of crap that someone needs to unload quickly and cheaply for cash.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-16-2014, 07:16 AM
 
4,565 posts, read 10,658,413 times
Reputation: 6730
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rakin View Post
Usually "Investor Property" means a piece of crap that someone needs to unload quickly and cheaply for cash.
Or "Investor Property" means cannot finance. Missing furnace, broken pipes, leaking roof, etc. So yes, cash only.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-16-2014, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
6,782 posts, read 9,595,436 times
Reputation: 10246
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rakin View Post
Usually "Investor Property" means a piece of crap that someone needs to unload quickly and cheaply for cash.
That's what I always thought.

"Turnkey" means needs some work.
"Handyman's special" means a total rehab is needed.
"Investor" means you should probably push it over and rebuild.
"Teardown" means there's a corpse buried below the basement.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-16-2014, 07:38 AM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
4,009 posts, read 6,865,329 times
Reputation: 4608
I don't view it as unethical. It's just like advertisers putting on toy commercials during a children's TV show. They're marketing toward kids because they're likely the ones who will want the product.

Same goes for realtors who market certain houses toward investors- they do so because they're the more likely target market.

DH and I saw some houses marketed toward investors when we were house hunting. We aren't afraid of a little work or cosmetic DIY but boy oh boy, these houses were often a mess! Missing copper pipes, missing HVAC unit, really funky things going on with the electric.

As others mentioned, it's unlikely that some of these houses would qualify for loan requirements in their present condition. Also, they were often being sold as is, so there was little to no chance of the seller agreeing to repairs.

They needed a cash buyer with more cash on hand to inject into the property to make it livable to either resell as a flip or rent out.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-16-2014, 07:39 AM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
4,009 posts, read 6,865,329 times
Reputation: 4608
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moby Hick View Post
That's what I always thought.

"Turnkey" means needs some work.
"Handyman's special" means a total rehab is needed.
"Investor" means you should probably push it over and rebuild.
"Teardown" means there's a corpse buried below the basement.
Haha. Love it!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-16-2014, 07:40 AM
 
4,565 posts, read 10,658,413 times
Reputation: 6730
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moby Hick View Post
"Teardown" means there's a corpse buried below the basement.
Typically teardowns around here are either places that have recently caught fire or a house that has been abandon for 20 years with the roof leaking the whole time. Completely rotted.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-16-2014, 07:40 AM
 
Location: DFW
40,951 posts, read 49,198,692 times
Reputation: 55008
Quote:
Originally Posted by 399083453 View Post
Or "Investor Property" means cannot finance. Missing furnace, broken pipes, leaking roof, etc. So yes, cash only.
Yes and it also means don't do an Inspection and come to me with a long list of things to fix.

That leaky faucet / bad roof is part of the deal.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-16-2014, 08:04 AM
 
4,565 posts, read 10,658,413 times
Reputation: 6730
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rakin View Post
Yes and it also means don't do an Inspection and come to me with a long list of things to fix.
Everything is negotiable. Even if you have to go back and forth with the price, at least you have an interested party. Lets say you go back and forth and come to a $500 concession on the price, go for it. To place a line in the sand and say "this is the price, take it or leave it" may mean you could be sitting on it for years.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Real Estate

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:59 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top